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Yeah, but that's okay. That was Obama, not HITLER
I honestly figured that if you were arrested and found to not be a citizen, you automatically called Immigration. What is the rationale of not doing this?That's what slows down the deporting of illegal immigrants, not leniency or a lack of manpower.I completely agree that it's a factor, but surely you will agree that the existence of sanctuary cities is one too. Not trying to make any claims about which factor is bigger since I literally have no clue.
It's funny how people who claim to love America and the constitution are happy to throw out that 5th amendment for non-Americans.Little late here, but virtually all of the protections and freedoms under the Constitution are afforded to persons, not simply citizens. The Fifth Amendment even begins with "No person..." It's part of the reason I'm skeptical about any plans for a "deportation force" somehow cutting through the backlog of illegal immigrants. You can't just round them up and throw them out of the country en masse.You're partially correct, except illegal immigration is dealt with as an administrative, not criminal matter. To my understanding this hasn't changed over the past decades, so have an old explainer: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2001/09/do_noncitizens_have_constitutional_rights.html
They don't get criminal trials, but there still needs to be some sort of process where people can plead their case to satisfy the due process requirement. That's what slows down the deporting of illegal immigrants, not leniency or a lack of manpower.
I usually am but given how it was worded that the team is broken up and a new one needs to form....I haven't heard much of it, but I'm tentatively excited. If it's single-player, I'm fucking pumped and I want it. If it's an MMO, then I'm really not interested.
I literally feel the same.
Here's to hoping LD is wrong.
Really depends on their situation. If I were fleeing a shit hole that had nothing but death for me, I'd be happy to be locked in an airport.A federal judge issued an emergency stay that will prevent those with valid visas in the US from being sent back.Worth bearing in mind that, at least temporarily, this makes these people's situation even worse. Now they can neither be deported nor admitted into the country. Previously at least the former was an option.
Edited for correctness.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38786660
I agree with LD - I think them being detained is an issue, but I'm somewhat confident that a visa does not guarantee you entry. I'm no expert on the matter, but I'm basing this from my own experience with US visas and the things the Consulate General told me to be aware of at the time.They aren't different but they generally need a reason to deny your visa. They can't just say ... "Yeah, see, I decided I don't like Muslims so we're canceling your visa."
Granted, it was something along the lines of "btw, not that this will ever happen haha, but technically we might still tell you to piss off at the border", but still. Immigrant visas may be different in that respect. If they are, fair enough.
Ok so EOs are legally binding just like a law. So it's like if Congress passed a law banning those people from entering. But they were detained... which is kinda different than just banning, right? I mean, you can ban someone from entering but not detain them.In particular, I was curious about the ACLU story, which I believe you didn't provide a link for.
According to the ACLU, these two are not green card holders.
Gotcha, my mistake.
As far as I am aware, the fifth amendment's wording has been historically interpreted to mean that any person in the US is protected by it. This is bolstered by the 14th amendment, which makes explicit distinctions between citizens and all people, and due process is listed as a right for all people there. There is also precedent for immigrants stopped at the border being due fifth amendment rights.
What kind of visas are we talking about? My B1/B2 visa was issued with a clear disclaimer that it simply gives me the right to ask nicely to be let in - and that I may be denied entry despite having it.
Also, Fifth Amendment? Am I missing something? I thought the Fifth Amendment was about due process in courts. They haven't been unjustly convicted of a crime, have they?
Yeah but the list you put up is most of the middle east and includes Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. And forgive me if I'm wrong but aren't all those countries, countries that have been at war with Israel in the past? With the exception of Pakistan.Not sure what you're getting at.If we're drawing spurious connections about the list of countries affected by the ban, we might as well go all in and claim that every single correlation is relevant.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-muslim-ban-excludes-countries-linked-businesses-article-1.2957956
This won't last. It literally just can't last. He'll be impeached, or else he'll resign (I doubt the latter will happen, unless he has a chance to frame it as a "Screw you guys, I'm going home!" gesture). There's no way we're going to have four years of this.
With GWB the stories would die out as quick as they came up. Trump has a seriously negative feedback loop with the press. He does something dumb or outrageous the media makes a big deal for a day or two and Trump fires back and on it goes. I agree the media will not change it, but the Trump administration can end a lot of this nonsense more easily than the entire MSM conglomerate.
This is by design.
Just tried to call the White House Comments line about this green card issue, since it was reported a while ago that if you stayed on the line, someone would answer.Donald Trump is for THE PEOPLE.
Nope. Fucking hung up on me.
Reuters is reporting that legal green card holders are included in Trump's travel ban. So it seems that, even if you have legal residence in the United States, if you are using a passport from one of the countries listed in his executive order, you cannot enter the United States anymore.
I doubt this is legal, and we're only on day 9.
