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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 10, 2018, 05:16:29 PM »

Maybe Trump was right. Maybe this really is a deliberate effort by the Mexican government to send us their worst!

Trump is right about a lot of things.

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Technology & Information / Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?

« on: May 10, 2018, 04:36:41 PM »

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear,  comrade!

That's why they put in the 5th Amendment in America: So we know who the mobsters and criminals are.

Did you mean the 4th?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: If there are supposedly thousands of satellites orbiting earth, why hasn't the

« on: May 10, 2018, 03:21:54 PM »

If an airplane isn't in orbit, how does it stay up? It has its own propulsion, and so do your supposed "satellites" and yes, things do dip below the horizon, but only as an optical illusion. The horizon as it is understood in RET doesn't actually exist.

...As I had explained before, the satellites are always falling towards earth, because of the way they were launched, they continue doing so at an angle. And do you have zero clue how airplanes work? You know, thrust, lift? Simple things that most of society understand?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: If there are supposedly thousands of satellites orbiting earth, why hasn't the

« on: May 10, 2018, 03:16:57 PM »

I'm confused, why does it dip below the horizon and it's an optical illusion, mind elaborating on this concept?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Atheism.

« on: May 10, 2018, 03:01:55 PM »

This is an incredibly low-effort thread.

The majority of regulars here are atheist or agnostic. They will also recognize that this is a really dumb question, so I'd be surprised if you get much response.

Good point, poof, irrelevant!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Atheism.

« on: May 10, 2018, 02:44:24 PM »

A lot of people have misconceptions of Atheism. Would anyone mind telling me what they think it is?

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Unofficial Debate Guidelines

« on: May 10, 2018, 01:49:24 PM »

You didn't even link to the thread you're talking about. I've already lost interest because you're expecting me to do all the work.

I'll link it if you're still interested. Although it has been moved to CN

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Technology & Information / Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?

« on: May 10, 2018, 01:45:28 PM »

As in unless you're doing something illegal, why do you need to hide your IP address? And having a problem with them storing your online data, is like saying that a phone does the same thing, even though it says that they have the right to use browser and data information in a court. You sign away a lot of freedom while using electronics, and IP address can be shared throughout a large amount of people, IE a school or company. It makes zero sense to hide it. Is this a better statement?

No, it's a worse one. Nobody "signs away" anything by using a computer. You're confusing terms of use of specific online services with the use of a machine.

You don't need to be doing something illegal to worry about your IP address being stored, but hyperfocusing on the IP address part is probably why you're getting confused. Google collects too much information from too many different sources about people already. If we can do something small to anonymise that data a little bit better, such as obfuscating part of an IP address, that is an improvement.

I would be equally in favour of, say, anonymising user agents. The fact that we're talking about IP addresses is incidental.

Oh...Well, I admit that I am wrong. I'm not exactly the keenest in subjects, so I might have messed up a few things. I apologize.

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Technology & Information / Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?

« on: May 10, 2018, 01:25:19 PM »

You really don't need to hide your I.P Address if you're a normal citizen though...

This is too vague a statement to respond to. What do you mean by "hide your IP address"? You can't hide it in connections you make since it is what identifies you on the Internet, but there is quite a big difference between obfuscating your IP address with a proxy and having a megacorporation forever storing your every online move associated with your IP address.

As in unless you're doing something illegal, why do you need to hide your IP address? And having a problem with them storing your online data, is like saying that a phone does the same thing, even though it says that they have the right to use browser and data information in a court. You sign away a lot of freedom while using electronics, and IP address can be shared throughout a large amount of people, IE a school or company. It makes zero sense to hide it. Is this a better statement?

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Technology & Information / Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?

« on: May 10, 2018, 01:14:49 PM »

Actually it really is Google's business. Google has a Privacy Policy page, and a Terms of Service page. Both state that google can collect information on you, I.P. Addresses included. If you have a problem with this, don't use the internet.

Or you can just, you know, configure your browser not to send your information to Google.

I use five privacy-related browser extensions:

• Privacy Badger to dynamically detect and block trackers.
• uBlock Origin, primarily an adblocker but also blocks some known trackers.
• Decentraleyes, which caches static content from content providers locally to avoid passive tracking through the hosting of static files like jquery.
• Cookie AutoDelete to delete cookies from (non-whitelisted) websites after I close their tab.
• DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials, which aside from replacing the default search engine with DuckDuckGo, provides its own tracker-blocking functionality.

There are also others such as uMatrix which you can use if you're really paranoid, but they require more work to maintain. The five I listed above are set and forget.

You really don't need to hide your I.P Address if you're a normal citizen though...

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Technology & Information / Re: Re: Protecting IP addresses from google

« on: May 10, 2018, 12:56:14 PM »

IP addresses aren't personally identifiable information ...

Yeah, you keep saying that
https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2016/10/20/ecj-rules-ip-address-is-pii/

From an IP address you can infer a location. It is none of Google's business where I am from.

Actually it really is Google's business. Google has a Privacy Policy page, and a Terms of Service page. Both state that google can collect information on you, I.P. Addresses included. If you have a problem with this, don't use the internet.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: If there are supposedly thousands of satellites orbiting earth, why hasn't the

« on: May 10, 2018, 12:43:28 PM »

Planes can dip below the horizon and end up on the opposite side. They're not in orbit, so why is a satellite?

First of all, nice job admitting planes dip below the horizon! Also, nice job admitting satellites exist. Because if a satellite wasn't in orbit, how would it stay up? Ever heard of gravity much? Or is it just "heavy"? Being in orbit allows the satellite to continuously fall towards the Earth, but at an angle so that it never crashes down to Earth. Airplans on the other hand, were built to fly, giving them their own propulsion.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Makes conspiracy Theorists believe.

« on: May 09, 2018, 06:23:52 PM »

Von Braun used slavery, torture, and murder to achieve his ends. He was a Colonel in the SS!

Are we supposed to believe that NASA harbored the most evil criminals on earth within their ranks, appointed them to high positions in their governance, and then take their word of scientific achievements without question?

 Before the civil war, the South had appointed governors who encouraged slavery, and treated African American's like they weren't human. Yet, after the war and during Reconstruction, we allowed these governors to return to power, and take away African American rights. Is this not similarly related?

Are you really making an argument that it is fine for Hitler's officers to "return to power" after the war?

They weren't even "in power" in this country. That is like arguing that Dr. Josef Mengele should have be made the Suregon General of the United States.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm just relating it to something in history. I'm really making an argument that although he might have served in a certain military, doesn't mean he wanted to fight for that. Do you really think all Nazi's wanted to fight for Hitler?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Makes conspiracy Theorists believe.

« on: May 09, 2018, 06:14:34 PM »

Von Braun used slavery, torture, and murder to achieve his ends. He was a Colonel in the SS!

Are we supposed to believe that NASA harbored the most evil criminals on earth within their ranks, appointed them to high positions in their governance, and then take their word of scientific achievements without question?

 Before the civil war, the South had appointed governors who encouraged slavery, and treated African American's like they weren't human. Yet, after the war and during Reconstruction, we allowed these governors to return to power, and take away African American rights. Is this not similarly related?

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Flat Earth Community / How you started V.2

« on: May 09, 2018, 06:11:08 PM »

I have believed in the round Earth since I was a child. But I'm curious how you became a flat earther, and what evidence pushed you over the edge.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Makes conspiracy Theorists believe.

« on: May 09, 2018, 06:00:20 PM »

Let me read those, and I thought we did the Nazi thing because the Germans had superior rocket science...

It was more than that. They put the Nazis in control of NASA. Wernher Von Braun, a notorious war criminal and SS Officer, was made into a NASA director.

Huh, that was an interesting choice. Although, from what I'm reading right now, he was following his childhood dream of rockets, and the German's were just a way he could get to that. And then again, we do have a horrible history of putting the wrong people in high positions.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Makes conspiracy Theorists believe.

« on: May 09, 2018, 05:53:01 PM »

The people who created NASA were also caught conducting a secret war. Why should we trust a word from them?

Is that real? Like actually because if so, wow.

Yes. Look into the Pentagon Papers which exposed the secret war of the Vietnam era in which the public and Congress were systematically lied to about the scale of the war and reckless disregard for civilian casualties for over 20 years between 1945 to 1967. The Secret War was administrated by the Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson administration, the same people who were in charge around the time when NASA started making all of its fantastic claims.

From the wiki link --

President Johnson had decided to expand the war while promising "we seek no wider war" during his 1964 presidential campaign,[8] including plans to bomb North Vietnam well before the 1964 Election. President Johnson had been outspoken against doing so during the election and claimed that his opponent Barry Goldwater was the one that wanted to bomb North Vietnam.

Those same legislators also put Nazi war criminals in the NASA administration.

Let me read those, and I thought we did the Nazi thing because the Germans had superior rocket science...

Edit: (Wikipedia is banned by the internet I use for some ungodly reason, so I'll have to read them later. Fullest apologizes.)

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Are other objects in the Solar System Flat as well?

« on: May 09, 2018, 05:50:43 PM »

They are also barren and lifeless.

Only as far as we know. My favorite solution to the Fermi Paradox: they're out there somewhere, just impossible to see.

The two are quite related.

Correlation =/= causation.

Round worlds can't support life.

If Europa's surface ice suddenly melted, what would stop life from forming?

I'm also confused, since A is similar to B and A and B don't have life, then C can't support life if it was like A and B...does that make any sense?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What Makes conspiracy Theorists believe.

« on: May 09, 2018, 05:48:25 PM »

The people who created NASA were also caught conducting a secret war. Why should we trust a word from them?

Is that real? Like actually because if so, wow.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: If there are supposedly thousands of satellites orbiting earth, why hasn't the

« on: May 09, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »

The idea that you can see something from the ground, regardless of its distance, does not prove in any way that it is in some kind of orbit around a globe.

Well what about how when a satellite dips below the horizon, then rises from the opposite. On a globe that would work, but not on a flat plane.