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Messages - Hendro Witomo

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FEers and REers agree on just about nothing. However, I don't see how "sunrise" and "sunset" times can be disputed. They are documented and easily verifiable. For example, I randomly googled sunrise times for Sunday, June 27, 2021 for Helsinki and got 3:57 a.m. (GMT+3), and Cape Town and got 7:52 a.m. (GMT+2). World-wide times for both "sunrise" and "sunset" could be gathered and input to a spatial interpolation algorithm to create a light/dark demarcation line for the entire world at any given time.

Another point of agreement is probably that the dark/light demarcation line is smooth as opposed to a zig-zag. The RE model is pretty clear on that. For FE, the spotlight effect is also shown to have a smooth radius creating a circular demarcation line.

Given those two points of agreement, the locations associated with each time could then be plotted on a map with various spotlight radii to create test FE maps. This process could be repeated as many times as necessary, and at all times of the year, and tested with digital cross-correlation until only one scenario fits all locations at all times, thus creating an accurate FE map.

Comments?

Stevecanuck, I like your idea and it should work.  If you refer to my post of July 4th, I found extra information which includes Sun azimuth (angle) at dawn and dusk which will improve the accuracy of your Sun positions. 
I'm waiting (for nearly a month) for some FE wise person to explain how, in the Southern Hemisphere, at the Southern Solstice, the Sun rises SOUTH of my position (37o S) and sets to the South.  Because it suggests all Flat Earth maps fail to explain this well observed occurrence.  Hendro

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Flat Earth Theory / Southern Summer Solstice
« on: July 04, 2021, 01:56:25 AM »
Everyone will agree the Southern Summer Solstice occurs on Dec 21/22 when the sun is on the Tropic of Capricorn.
From Auckland, NZ, for example, on those days, sunrise will be at 04:58 am and sunset at 19:30 pm (removing daylight saving). At these times the sun will at sunrise be at Longitude 075oW, (just off the coast of Chile), and at sunset 065oE (in the mid Indian Ocean).

Calculating a direction to the sun from Auckland at each time (from the accepted FE map) I get sunrise azimuth 036o, and sunset 330o, both a long way North of Auckland.
My problem is the actual reliably measured azimuths are 121o and 239o respectively, both quite a way to the South.

Could some wise person explain this discrepancy in FE Theory because I don't think the light bends 100o?

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