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Brian Cox appears to be enamored with the idea. During the same lecture on his history of gravity portion, Brian Cox explains that the earth is accelerating upwards:


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 29, 2025, 03:52:10 AM »
How was I supporting it in that post? I was neither supporting nor condemning it. I was just stating as a fact that society is still trying to figure out the trans issue and what to do with it
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I stand by my quote - I mean, it isn't even an opinion. It's just a fact that migration has been a good thing
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Again, that's not an opinion it's just biology. I didn't express an opinion on abortion in that post, I was responding to the assertion that a clump of cells in the very early stages of development is a "human life who wants to live". It doesn't have a brain, how can it "want" anything?

These are all textbook leftist woke talking points, no matter how much you try to spin them as neutral facts or just biology. Claiming that loss of jobs to mass migration is good, reducing the trans issue to some vague societal confusion, and throwing out the tired "clump of cells" argument on abortion are straight from the woke playbook. Whether you admit it or not, you're parroting woke ideology.

Your point that you are not on the far left is subtle, but irrelevant. You are clearly a woke lefty.

It interesting how much that lot care about unborn babies.
And how little they care about actual babies, children or adults who are vulnerable.

And here you are virtue signaling, a classic hallmark of a woke leftist. Your argument that you are not on Team Woke fails hard.

You went full cliche with the virtue signaling about caring for the "vulnerable." This is typical woke deflection. Pretend to care about children and adults while dismissing humans in the womb as irrelevant. It is a tired, hypocritical tactic, and it doesn't make your denial of being woke any less laughable.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 28, 2025, 07:55:36 PM »
Oh yes, lets trust the people who deported her to tell the truth.  I'm sure they have aboslutely no reason to lie.  Nope.  That's why they skipped the formalities of a judicial hearing and jumped right into it.


Seriously Tom... believing the official story?  Really?  Gonna go support NASA's moon mission now?

It also says this in the article you linked:

    "The parents made the decision to take the child with them to Honduras. It is common that parents want to be removed with their children," said Tricia McLaughlin, DHS' assistant secretary for public affairs.

Are you claiming that the parents didn't want to take their child with them to Honduras? That would be an odd claim. Most parents in that situation would want to take their children with them. If the parents take their children with them then the children don't need to go through an official ejection process. Patents are legal guardians and make legal decisions on behalf of their children, which in this case was to go to Honduras with them.

If in an unlikely situation that the parents insisted that their US Citizen children stay in the United States, the government would probably send them to foster care if alternative family arrangements couldn't be found. The government can't deport a US Citizen to a country where they have no legal status.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 28, 2025, 06:52:03 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/26/nx-s1-5378077/honduras-deported-girl-citizen

First they came for the illegals.
Then they came for the citizens who were children.


This is why we have courts: Because ICE isn't someone you can trust to give you a truthful answer.  That kid could have stayed with their dad/partner.  That's typically how it works.  Or another family member.  The fact that ICE is saying this is what she wanted is not something anyone can verify.  Which, again, is why we have fucking courts!

She didn't visit a court to enter the country, why should she bother visiting just before getting kicked out of it?
Her son is a US citizen.  And while she would probably be deported, her son would not.  What happens to the kid is decided in a court with the parents having several options.

This is a lie. The child was not deported. The woman decided to take her US Citizen child with her.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 25, 2025, 07:22:03 AM »
This is an oddly ironic form of projection. You are on Team Woke
No, I'm not. I'll add this to the very long list of "things Tom is wrong about".
You really need to stop telling people what they believe.

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which is trying to convince normal people that that men can be women, that abortion is just fine, that mass migration is beneficial
I don't believe any of those things. They are all complex issues which people like you try to pretend are simple ones.

This is a weird lie. You have been on this forum for years and have expressed support for all the leftist woke policies by now. You are a known woke personality on tfes.org.

Here you are supporting the trans journey of society:

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=19076.msg263124#msg263124

Quote from: AATW
Where we are as a society right now different sexualities are accepted - so you don't "do" anything about that. With trans stuff we as a society are still on a journey.

Here you are supporting the mass immigration which occured in Britain:

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=15509.msg203101#msg203101

Quote from: AATW
Immigration has been a good thing for us economically and in terms of filling skills gaps. Old people don't like it because of "all them foreigners coming over here"

Here you are supporting abortion by trivializing fetuses as "clumps of cells":

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=19337.msg264762#msg264762

Quote from: AATW
A clump of cells doesn’t “want” anything and by no sensible definition would you declare it a human life.


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and yet you think that the other side is a cult.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

The way you slavishly defend everything your Supreme Leader does, no matter how clearly wrong.
The way you do mental backflips to believe the obvious lies.
Those are the actions of a cult member.

Grown ups consider statements and actions on their merit. Your first reaction is not "what was said?" or "what was done?" but "who said/did it?".
The answer to that last question then forms your opinion. If it's your Supreme Leader or one of his minions then your reaction is thisisfine.jpg, no matter how blatant the lie or how egregious the action.
Those are the actions of a cult member.

Your view of how policies work is fundamentally wrong. Trump isn't unilaterally making policy decisions on anything. The Republican Party is making these decisions. This is why you got slapped on the Tariff discussion. It's not hard to defend Trump's decisions because his decisions are backed by an array of PhDs, analysts and strategists who have planned this for years in advance through the Right's think tanks such as the Heritage Foundation.

You should also look up the definition of cult. It's "A relatively small group of people having (esp. religious) beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister, or as exercising excessive control over members" (Oxford). Neither the Republican Party or MAGA are a small group of people, and they don't have control over their members on the level of something like Scientology. Conservativism and traditionalism are also only considered "strange or sinister" to the far left, who are a minority. So you should really reevaluate your definitions.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 25, 2025, 07:16:00 AM »
While we're on the subject of criticizing avatars, I was deeply hurt to discover that Tom's avatar was not, in fact, a picture of himself, but of a dentist whose name is not Tom Bishop. We trusted you, and you let us down.

This is inaccurate. Please respect my privacy and refrain from investigating or publicizing my identity.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 23, 2025, 08:27:06 PM »
This is an interesting choice of a comeback, considering that you have an avatar of an internet troll.
That isn't even true. Can you literally not get anything right? It's just a posh gentleman meme.
https://meme.fandom.com/wiki/Feel_Like_a_Sir

Your response is basically "no u", and you've not even got that right. Dear me.

Had you read your own link you would have seen that it is a Rage Comic caricature, which we all know originated on 4Chan and is famous for the troll memes, troll comics, and "U Mad Bro" slogans and similar trolls.

Even if you didn't know that history, you should have gotten an inference from the content of the article you posted: "The hacker group LulzSec, founded in early May 2011, used a modified version of the rage comic character for their official logo with a glass of red wine added to the image."

The LulzSec hacker group, who hacked organizations for the "lulz", uses your avatar as a form of trolling and mockery. What does this tell you? It's a troll meme.

Quote from: AATW
It's not irrational. With Johnson it's strategic, with Trump I'm not sure he even knows what the truth is.
It's hilarious that you continue to pretend you're winning arguments - you generally walk away from a thread when you've been humiliated declaring yourself the winner.

Your constant thisisfine.jpg meme is fooling no-one. It's a bit embarrassing watching you flail around trying to justify the unjustifiable.
People would have some respect for you on here if you admitted when your cult leader makes a mistake.
The mental backflips you keep doing to pretend he's infallible make you look ridiculous.
Yes yes, your side "won" - I just wonder how bad things have to get in the US before you stop to consider than it was a pyrrhic victory.

This is an oddly ironic form of projection. You are on Team Woke which is trying to convince normal people that that men can be women, that abortion is just fine, that mass migration is beneficial, and yet you think that the other side is a cult.  ::)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 22, 2025, 12:06:22 AM »
Actually drinking is a legal activity which many adults safely participate in. Hegseth pledged not to drink so that as Secretary of Defense he would be available 24/7:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pete-hegseth-back-scrutiny-grows-misconduct-allegations/story?id=116444894

    North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer said he was encouraged by Hegseth's pledge in their private meeting Wednesday to abstain from alcohol as defense secretary.

    "He said, 'My commitment is to not touch alcohol while I have this position,'" said Cramer, who lost a son to alcohol addiction in 2018.

    "I said, 'It's really important that we have a clear-eyed secretary of defense if the phone rings at 3 in the morning.'" Cramer said. He said Hegseth replied that he would be clear-eyed at "3 in the morning, 3 in the afternoon, and every hour in between."

    Cramer said Hegseth told him there were times when he "drank too much, but never times that I drank too much and anything improper happened."

I don't see an issue with this. He wasn't needed around the clock in his previous jobs, but now he is. Hegseth said that in the past he would drink heavily, but never admitted to a drinking problem:

https://www.newsweek.com/everything-pete-hegseth-said-wrote-book-interviews-alcohol-use-pledge-quit-drunk-1995945

    "First of all, I've never had a drinking problem," Hegseth said. "No one's ever approached me and said, 'You should really look at getting help for drinking.' Never, never sought counseling, never sought help, but I respect and appreciate people who do. But you know, what do guys do when they come back from war oftentimes? Have some beers. How do you deal with the demons you see on the battlefield? Sometimes it's with a bottle."

    ...In an August 2021 appearance on The Will Cain Show podcast, Hegseth said: "I'd look around at 10 o'clock and be like, 'What am I going to do today? How about I drink some beers? How about I go have some lunch and have some beers? How about I meet my one or two buddies and have some beers?'"

    "And one beer leads to many, leads to self-medication, leads to 'I've earned this.' Like, 'don't tell me I can't,'" he said.

    When Cain asked Hegseth if he drank heavily after returning from combat, Hegseth said: "Oh yeah."

    And in his book, In the Arena, published in 2016, Hegseth describes how he had once crafted a "pious caricature" of himself, involving abstaining from vices including alcohol, which he admits was often misleading.

    He wrote: "I barely trust someone who doesn't enjoy a few drinks and won't drop a well-placed f-bomb."

Hegseth sounds pretty down to earth to me, and more accurately represents a member of the military than a stiff bureaucrat.

Quote from: honk
I'm not responsible for any dumb or incorrect thing some guy on Twitter said, and I don't need to defend him or otherwise answer for him. You keep trying to push this weird idea that everyone who criticizes Trump is on the same "team," and shares the responsibility whenever one of them makes a mistake.

Considering that there is zero content here from you guys which is actually original, and you are merely copy-pasting from the wider liberal narrative, their mistakes do become your issue. It shows that your worldview is based on these countless little lies and misinterpretations. It also wasn't merely a "guy on twitter". It was an editor-in-chief of a liberal media organization with millions of subscribers, the very organizations being criticized.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 21, 2025, 08:44:49 PM »
The leftist worldview, which you subscribe to, is based on lies. It is constantly contradicted by the truth.

Once you have something more than anonymous sources and poor quality arguments let me know. As it is, these arguments reek of desperation.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 21, 2025, 05:09:58 PM »
Yes, it's actually a good thing that an unqualified drunk is in charge of the military and regularly shares classified information on unsecured platforms with people who have no security clearance.

This is you and your side on this:

https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-hegseth-drinking-nato-press-conference/

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Assessing Claims That Pete Hegseth Was Drinking at a Press Conference

Viral images appear to show a brown liquid but higher-definition videos indicate his beverage was clear.



The leftists, who you apparently admire, are saying the most retart things imaginable in complete desperation. Muh liquid is brown is exactly the sort of quality arguments I see from you guys. The above claim of drinking during a press conference comes from the editor-in-chief of a leftist rag, not just any random leftist.

This allegation of drinking is also apparently based on anonymous allegations of seeing him drunk at a bar:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/pete-hegseth-trump-allegations-history-b2657456.html

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Pete Hegseth accused of chanting ‘kill all Muslims’ on a drunken night out

Besides Hegseth drunkenly yelling the hateful Islamophobic chant, a whistelblower report alleged that he had to be stopped from storming a dancers’ stage at a Louisiana strip club.

Even if these anonymous sources were true, it's actually not illegal or unforgivable to get drunk at a bar. Considering that the Pentagon is not a bar, and you have no evidence of him treating it as one, it seems that these anonymous accusations which substitutes proof in your mind, actually proves that this take place in a designated area and that we are safe here.

I can predict your Puritan response on this and, frankly, it's extremely weird how you LARP as pro-prostitution and degeneracy in one post and then you LARP as a 1800's-era Puritan in the next. If you have an actual identity it is obscured by these constant morality LARPs.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 21, 2025, 03:14:03 PM »
The problem here is the poor quality of arguments.
The actual problem is that you are either a troll or, less likely but certainly possible, you’re so deep in the Trump cult that you have managed to convince yourself you see 5 fingers when only 4 are held up.
But even if you have convinced yourself, you don’t convince anyone else.

This is an interesting choice of a comeback, considering that you have an avatar of an internet troll. You come here as the troll you envision yourself to be and post your nonsense from the trolliest of leftist comedy websites, from which you get your knowledge.

The Trump/Johnson "lies" argument is objectively false and silly. The leftist "They lie about everything" argument is geared towards the lowest IQ public who have trouble understanding more complex topics.

We are supposed to believe that they walk around irrationally lying, but when these claims are repeated in a place where they can be challenged we see consistent embarrassment, such as when you guys posted a video clip and told me that Trump thought that magnets stopped working in water and it turned out that he was obviously talking about electromagnets in the full conversation. These examples and subsequent smackdowns have been repeated in this thread over, and over, and over again, and yet you refuse to learn.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/20/politics/hegseth-second-signal-chat-military-plans/index.html

Whiskeyleaks strikes again!

We covered this already. The Secretary of Defense is second in command of the military and has broad classification and declassification powers. Your argument would be in a much better position if this wasn't the person in charge of classifying and declassifying military information.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: April 20, 2025, 09:33:44 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 20, 2025, 04:20:05 PM »
I think we just gotta ask ourselves... If a president will lie about something as trivial as his weight and height... What else is he gonna lie about?  How can we trust him?
You’re right.
But the issue is Trump lies endlessly. One side know this and are bemused that he has ended up in power anyway. The other side just don’t care about his endless lies or have somehow deluded themselves in to believing he doesn’t lie. From the other side of the pond it is all a bit baffling. But we had similar with Johnson over here.

The problem here is the poor quality of arguments. Recall this argument you made about Boris Johnson, proudly announcing your "favourite" lie of his. It was poorly researched:

My "favourite" (if that's the right word) Boris example was when he went to a hospital for a photo-op and was accosted by a parent of a patient there. The man lambasted Boris about the lack of resources and for coming to the hospital for a photo-op. Boris denied it and said something along the lines of "there are no press here" in front of the press who were recording the encounter. ???

Your "favourite" example is actually an embarrassing display of your tendency to assume things which suit you without considering that you might be wrong and that you need to research your positions. Obviously "there are no press here" can mean a lot of things. Namely that they weren't acting as press. It's not too hard to find that this was the case:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-qa-what-did-boris-johnson-mean-when-he-said-there-were-no-press-at-his-hospital-visit

    Omar Salem was waiting for his daughter to be treated in a paediatric ward in Whipps Cross hospital in northeast London when he confronted the Prime Minister, saying: “The NHS is being destroyed… it’s being destroyed and now you come here for a press opportunity.”

    Mr Johnson replied: “Well actually, there’s no press here.”

    Gesticulating at the members of the media standing nearby, Mr Salem said: “What do you mean, there’s no press here? Who are these people?”

    Mr Johnson appeared to start an attempted explanation, saying: “They’re… they’re here…” before trailing off.

    Who was at the event?

    Downing Street invited a photographer and a video crew from the Press Association – the UK’s news agency of record – to the event, as well as a “pool” video crew, consisting of a ​camera operator and broadcast journalist.

    The long-established pool system involves the major broadcasters (including ITN, the makers of Channel 4 News) taking it in turns to send cameras and journalists to events that we know about in advance.

    Footage shot by the pool camera crew is then made available to other members of the pool for use in their own broadcasts.

    Often, the pool team agrees to go to the event on the understanding that a reporter will get the chance to ask questions of politicians like Boris Johnson.

    Obviously, if only one reporter attends, that limits the scope of the questions, but the questions aren’t pre-arranged with the government and there’s no restriction on what journalists can ask.

    On this occasion, the broadcasters who run the pool were told that they would be able to film Mr Johnson walking around the hospital visit, but no arrangements were made to record an interview the Prime Minister, or ask him questions.

    The pool team agreed to go on this understanding. Apart from the Press Association, it appears that no other reporters from newspapers or other news organisations attended.

    This may have been what Mr Johnson had in mind when he said there were “no press” at the event.

It wasn't a press event. You were assuming too much. A person who is taking photographs or video in a hospital to document a state visit isn't necessarily acting as "press". The relative of the patient was questioning Johnson about the absurdity of the presence of press at the hospital, but Johnson pointed out that consideration was given. They were not acting as press by agreement.

Johnson's use of "actually" in his response of “Well actually, there’s no press here" suggests that they may seem like press, but are not. This should have prompted additional research on the actual situation rather than just assuming things. Johnson is suggesting that he knows something that the relative didn't know, which an astute investigator should have looked into before embarrassing themselves with false and faulty partisan accusations.

These "lies" seem to hinge on your own intelligence and ability to research and comprehend truth, which puts your assessments into serious question. Considering that you apparently believe every liberal trash article you come across, we can safely dismiss your disreputable claptrap.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 20, 2025, 04:01:48 AM »
Actually I didn't even need to put one character in front of the other, it also works when they are side-by-side. As long as the camera is closer to one character they will be taller. Considering that these are extreme close up pictures, with often more than two subjects in a cropped photo, it stands that it is possible that the camera is closer to one specific person in the shot than another. They will therefore be "taller". 



It is extremely fallacious to take random photographs and make assumptions, especially when your data is contradicted by other photographs, however normal it is for the media to operate in this way. From this exercise I am fairly certain that Trump is within an inch of the height he says he is. My certainty in the lies and ignorance of the liberal media is also reinforced.

Curiously, I note that this is all basically a continuation of humanity's error of Aristotelian logic and science which stems back thousands of years, an erroneous Dark Age practice where you make an observation and just assume it to be true without further investigation, based on your inherent and emotional need to be correct.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 19, 2025, 11:43:51 PM »
Or, you know, slight angle discrepancies causing height effects.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 19, 2025, 06:50:47 PM »
Just stop. It's easy to find pictures of varying heights, in various conditions. Photographs with unknown conditions are not a measurement tool.

Here is Trump towering over Mohamed Ali who is 6'3".





Trump with George Foreman who is 6'4"


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 19, 2025, 05:28:24 PM »
BREAKING NEWS TRUMP GROWS IN HEIGHT OVER THE SPAN OF A FEW MINUTES

Trump is supposed to be 6'3", yet is shorter than Vance who is 6'2".


https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/national/politics/2025/02/09/vance-musk-trump-courts-doge


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 19, 2025, 04:01:20 PM »
Nice pivot, I see that the new leftist talking point has been deployed. It is fascinating how the left fixates on Trump's height, as if that is relevant at all to the unprecedented political upheaval and mass demolishment of liberalism occuring. While he's dismantling their cherished DEI initiatives, cutting budgets for their favorite projects, and sending leftist bureaucrats packing, they want to debate how tall he is. Obsessing over the ruler while ignoring the wrecking ball. But hey, as their ideological empire crumbles, at least they'll have an exact measurement of the wrecking ball operator.

Anyway, this argument based on selective pictures isn't really that convincing, considering that the first few results on image search shows versions where they are more similarly statured. Unlike the above, Trump's eye level is not at mouth level in these images:

https://www.govexec.com/management/2024/07/heres-now-trumps-new-vice-presidential-pick-stacks-federal-workforce-issues/398056/



https://www.cbtnews.com/trumps-white-house-return-signals-major-shift-in-ev-policy-trade-and-economic-direction/



https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/jd-vance-britain-islamist-state-angela-rayner-trump-vp-t2jd237f8



https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/arts/jd-vance-trump-hollywood.html


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 13, 2025, 06:01:39 PM »
You are not a mod here so you don't get to tell me what to post or what not to.
The video is relevant to this thread. And of course I looked at it. To say I haven't is an incorrect accusation and ironic from someone who often posts cherry picked quotes from articles which actually say the exact opposite of what the cherry picked quote implies.

I have repeatedly pointed out that your definition of cherry picking includes things like "Yes, he says that the three body problem has issues... but we see on this other page in his book that he thinks that the earth is a sphere!! Cherry picking!!!"

These are retart arguments that a child would come up with, and it is actually you who is cherry picking something and refusing to address the actual argument being discussed. I really wish you would just follow through with your threat of boredom and leave this forum. There are these things called books, where you can learn about subjects without having to interact with people. You can work on your intellectual and emotional development on your own without having to continually embarrass yourself publicly.

Quote from: AATW
An interesting and somewhat baffling response given that this exchange started with a video which juxtaposes one of the lies with the proof that it's a lie. Of course you see not just evidence of it but absolute proof of it. Your response is interesting. You have a cult leader who you believe to be infallible and truthful. You see a video which clearly demonstrates he lies. What do you do with that contradiction? An honest response would be to change your views on the fallibility and honesty of the cult leader. It is interesting that your response is to try and reconcile the lie with the proof that it's a lie by pretending that words don't mean what you know they mean.

Again, the problem here is completely on your part. There are different ways to interpret statements, and you consistency take the most disingenuous and hack partisan approach, from the lowbrow leftist websites you are subscribed to. What you post is mostly trash from the scummiest journalists in media.

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