[Rushy]

Are you trying to do a Kirkbride/Particle Person/c0da thing?

What?

[Particle Person]

The ending of the words is fuck you x10

[Saddam Hussein]

Okay.  This was a very productive discussion on lore.  I think we all learned a lot today.

[Rushy]

I thought we were talking about graphics.

[Particle Person]

You know what game has the most of everything?  Well, maybe not weapons, but certainly city designs, architecture, dungeon variety, and stuff like that?  TESO.

It's funny you should mention city designs, because that was one of my least favorite things about the game. Every city I visited seemed to be just like the last, too small, and too sparsely populated.

[Saddam Hussein]

You know what game has the most of everything?  Well, maybe not weapons, but certainly city designs, architecture, dungeon variety, and stuff like that?  TESO.

It's funny you should mention city designs, because that was one of my least favorite things about the game. Every city I visited seemed to be just like the last, too small, and too sparsely populated.

The game is nothing if not wildly inconsistent.  Whoever designed the Dunmeri cities definitely dropped the ball, same as the people who worked on the Altmeri and Breton ones.  However, some of the other cities show much more imagination in their designs, both in terms of architecture and general layout.  I already mentioned that Elden Root is a giant tree, and Hissmir in Black Marsh is a xanmeer - that is to say, a large step pyramid.  On an interesting side note, these pyramids were most likely inspired by the ones that the Mesoamericans built, because that seems to be the main influence on the Argonian culture, but there is another possibilty.  Similar pyramids, called ziggurats, were built by ancient Mesopotamians.  And who else do we know was inspired by Mesopotamia?  That's right, the Dwemer.  So it turns out you were all wrong in that stupid debate about whether the Dwemer were elves or dwarves.  The Dwemer are, and always have been, Argonians.

/lore

[beardo]

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[Daniel Jackson]

You know what game has the most of everything?  Well, maybe not weapons, but certainly city designs, architecture, dungeon variety, and stuff like that?  TESO.

It's funny you should mention city designs, because that was one of my least favorite things about the game. Every city I visited seemed to be just like the last, too small, and too sparsely populated.

The game is nothing if not wildly inconsistent.  Whoever designed the Dunmeri cities definitely dropped the ball, same as the people who worked on the Altmeri and Breton ones.  However, some of the other cities show much more imagination in their designs, both in terms of architecture and general layout.  I already mentioned that Elden Root is a giant tree, and Hissmir in Black Marsh is a xanmeer - that is to say, a large step pyramid.  On an interesting side note, these pyramids were most likely inspired by the ones that the Mesoamericans built, because that seems to be the main influence on the Argonian culture, but there is another possibilty.  Similar pyramids, called ziggurats, were built by ancient Mesopotamians.  And who else do we know was inspired by Mesopotamia?  That's right, the Dwemer.  So it turns out you were all wrong in that stupid debate about whether the Dwemer were elves or dwarves.  The Dwemer are, and always have been, Argonians.

/lore

The pyramids really were landing sites for interplanetary starships that enslaved primitive populations by posing as their gods. Mesoamericans and Mesopotamians had nothing to do with it.

Take it from me, the real Daniel Jackson.

[Rushy]

lizard dwarves

[Saddam Hussein]

This thread shall not die!

http://kotaku.com/5981583/lets-rank-the-elder-scrolls-games-best-to-worst

Discuss.

[Particle Person]

I like that Daggerfall is ranked lowest for being "too big" when compared to Arena, seeing as Arena is infinitely large.

[Saddam Hussein]

Is it bigger than Daggerfall?  It doesn't look like Bethesda ever really measured it.

[Particle Person]

The wilderness outside of cities generates infinitely as you travel through it.

[Saddam Hussein]

I see.  If it were your list, how would you order them?

[Particle Person]

1. Morrowind
2. Skyrim
3. Oblivion (modded and with expansions)
4. Daggerfall
5. Arena

If I were ranking vanilla Oblivion, its place would be switched with Daggerfall. 

[Saddam Hussein]

We agree that Arena sucks, then.  Once I tried to play it, but I gave up when I found I couldn't even change the controls.  What did you think of Daggerfall?

[Particle Person]

I like Daggerfall a lot actually, and I still play it semi-regularly. I'm still kind of unsure whether or not I should put it below Oblivion, mods or not. Daggerfall is the ultimate roleplayer's sandbox. It certainly is huge, and there is a ton of everything: factions, dialogue (if you think Morrowind's dialogue system is bad...), towns and cities, NPCs, etc. It feels like a true scale representation of a fantasy world. Of course, this results in many things feeling very repetitive, gameplay-wise. This is why I believe only people who really like roleplaying will enjoy the game, but for those who do, it's great.

[Rushy]

1. Skyrim
2. Oblivion
3. Morrowind
4. Daggerfall
5. Arena

[beardo]

1. Skyrim
2. Oblivion
3. Morrowind
4. Daggerfall
5. Arena

Because this is the order in which the graphics are getting worse.

[Rushy]

Because this is the order in which the graphics are getting worse.

Not because.