[Saddam Hussein]

Because Kirkbride wanted to portray her as a retard when faced with the almighty Vivec Sue.  Roleplaying both of them was a terrible conflict of interest.  And that dopey story even further diminishes Kirkbride's claim that Vivec is the most fully-realized character in video games or whatever, because it's entirely out-of-character.  Vivec had spent thousands of years as a god, and he was sick of it by the end of Morrowind's events.  He wouldn't have done all that nonsense about eating Azura and becoming a "real" god even if he were capable of it.

[Particle Person]

Because Kirkbride wanted to portray her as a retard when faced with the almighty Vivec Sue.  Roleplaying both of them was a terrible conflict of interest.  And that dopey story even further diminishes Kirkbride's claim that Vivec is the most fully-realized character in video games or whatever, because it's entirely out-of-character.  Vivec had spent thousands of years as a god, and he was sick of it by the end of Morrowind's events.  He wouldn't have done all that nonsense about eating Azura and becoming a "real" god even if he were capable of it.

Well, if anybody is qualified to make judgements regarding what Vivec would and wouldn't do, it's definitely you.

[Saddam Hussein]

Are personal qualifications necessary to interpret the character and his motivations?  Anyone can do it.  If you have an alternate interpretation that reveals the underlying ambition and vindictiveness behind the supposed regret and weariness he expresses, I'd like to hear it.

[Rushy]

Kirkbride's claim that Vivec is the most fully-realized character in video games

Did he really make this ridiculous statement or anything similar to it?

[Saddam Hussein]

He did indeed:

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride

I can safely say that Vivec is the most realized character in videogame fiction. Period.

[Rushy]

I can safely say that Vivec is the most realized character in videogame fiction. Period.

Level of even: can't.

[Ghost of V]

That begs the question: who is the most realized character in videogame fiction? Is there even such a thing?

[Saddam Hussein]

That begs the question

No no no!

/smug pedantry

On topic, I don't know.  But Kirkbride is patting himself on the back a bit too much in that passage.  The whole thing, not just the line about Vivec.

[Ghost of V]

I'm pretty sure the correct answer is Duke Nukem.

[Snupes]

That begs the question

No no no!

/smug pedantry

On topic, I don't know.  But Kirkbride is patting himself on the back a bit too much in that passage.  The whole thing, not just the line about Vivec.

I can also say that Morrowind is the finest novel written in videogame fiction. A 40 hour narrative whose main character is only ever referenced is almost Nabokovian in aspiration, and prophecies whose truth is determined only by the player is akin to Borges if he only had been born with a USB port in the back of his beloved neck.

There is a fine line between celebrated tradition tuned to masterstrokes by its crafters and cliche'd demons underneath volcanos. Morrowind is the former, Selbeth, and nowhere near the latter.

God, I really don't like him

[Saddam Hussein]

The one video game that I think did the best job of exploring and subverting the common tropes of Chosen One myths and prophecied heroes is actually Dark Souls.  No joke.  As for the "Nabokovian" element of only ever referencing the main character, well, you could probably say the same thing about most murder mysteries.

[Vongeo]

The one video game that I think did the best job of exploring and subverting the common tropes of Chosen One myths and prophecied heroes is actually Dark Souls.  No joke.  As for the "Nabokovian" element of only ever referencing the main character, well, you could probably say the same thing about most murder mysteries.

There is deleted content where the guy who saves you and then falls through the roof and dies in the undead crypt wants to be the chosen undead real bad cuz fate and shit. So he goes along in the world making every choice you don't and fights you at the end because you either chose to light the flame and are helping false Gods, or if you let it burn out and are an evil dark lord to him.

[Particle Person]

The one video game that I think did the best job of exploring and subverting the common tropes of Chosen One myths and prophecied heroes is actually Dark Souls.  No joke.  As for the "Nabokovian" element of only ever referencing the main character, well, you could probably say the same thing about most murder mysteries.

Dark Souls is the most realized videogame character of all time?

[Ghost of V]

Dark Souls is the most realized videogame character of all time?

It's official.

[Rushy]

God, I really don't like him

What are you honestly expecting god to do about your dislike of Kirkbride?

[Crudblud]

I can also say that Morrowind is the finest novel written in videogame fiction. A 40 hour narrative whose main character is only ever referenced is almost Nabokovian in aspiration, and prophecies whose truth is determined only by the player is akin to Borges if he only had been born with a USB port in the back of his beloved neck.

There is a fine line between celebrated tradition tuned to masterstrokes by its crafters and cliche'd demons underneath volcanos. Morrowind is the former, Selbeth, and nowhere near the latter.

Level of even: can't.

[Snupes]

God, I really don't like him

What are you honestly expecting god to do about your dislike of Kirkbride?

Smite him

[Rushy]

Smite him

I don't think being an insane but stereotypical fiction writer is grounds for smiting. Unless you have unlimited smites available, I suggest using such a powerful ability on someone more deserving, like this ebola guy I keep hearing about.

[Saddam Hussein]

More witty IRC pasta:

<Saddam> One of the lines they're going to give guards for the justice system in TESO is "Stop right there, criminal scum!"
<Saddam> That's great
<Saddam> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFdcsmJlKE
<beerdo> Saddam: Can you prove this?
<Saddam> And if you steal something or kill anyone, open-world PvP happens
<Saddam> That's just great
<Saddam> Let other players interfere in your obstensibly PvE experience
<Saddam> Because why not
<Blanko> That does sound like an improvement
<Saddam> Also, it doesn't look like there's any jail
<Saddam> It's pay your fine or die
<Blanko> You can kill NPCs?
<Saddam> Yes
<Blanko> Does that apply to your own faction's NPCs as well?
<Saddam> Only your faction's NPCs, probably
<Blanko> wat
<Blanko> How does that make any sense
<Saddam> Well, once you've beaten the main story, you can visit the other factions' territories, so I assume you can attack them as well once you're there
<Saddam> But you can't do, like, invasions or whatever that you could in WoW
<Blanko> Oh...
<Blanko> I forgot you can't visit other factions at all
<Blanko> TESO sounds so fucking awful
<Saddam> I don't know, I'd hate to be getting ganked by invaders while I'm trying to do PvE stuff
<Crudblud> TESO sounds like the bestest most intelligently designed game ever
<Blanko> Yeah, god forbid you have to be involved with other players in an MMO
<Saddam> No other people in TES allowed!

[Blanko]

<Blanko> Saddam: Fuck off