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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #1080 on: August 12, 2014, 07:01:03 PM »
When you sarcastically referred to it as original and refreshing, like we were just discussing.

I wouldn't define that as "making fun" but okay.

Call it whatever you want. The point remains the same. 

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I'm not making any argument.

Then what are you doing, exactly? An argument is "an exchange in which the participants have opposing views." Are you saying that you agree wholly with what I've been stating?

I'm not putting forth any views. I'm just axing questions.

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Can you give us an example of a videogame that contains a lot of novel material?

I don't have a list.

Why would you need one?

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #1081 on: August 13, 2014, 01:43:03 AM »
In my desperation to change the subject, I offer forth moar IRC copypasta:

<Saddam> lore
<Crudblud> No
<Crudblud> Lore makes me snore
<Blanko> Have you guys noticed how Saddam doesn't actually ever talk about lore
<Saddam> What a twist!
<Saddam> the lorefag has no lore
<Blanko> Alexandyr and beardo know way more about TES lore than Saddam does
<Saddam> ON the contrary, I know quite a bit about it
<Saddam> I just don't talk about it as much as I do continuity
<Saddam> Because the fact is that the lore itself isn't really set in stone
<Blanko> It's true
<Saddam> When people complain that something violates lore, what it usually amounts to is just them criticizing the writing
<Blanko> Anything can potentially be a retcon I mean transcription error yes :^)
<Saddam> Not even that
<Saddam> It's like when people say "This city shouldn't look like that"
<Crudblud> All lore problems with TESO could have been avoided if they'd just said it was an alternate universe Tamriel
<Saddam> How do they know what the city should look like?
<Saddam> Because they imagined it differently?
<Blanko> lolwut
<Saddam> Yes
<Blanko> You were complaining about that as well
<Blanko> And I argued against it
<Foxbox> Yeah m8
<Crudblud> m8 m8 m8
<Saddam> But that was a continuity issue, not one of lore
<Blanko> ok saddam
<Saddam> We have seen Windhelm and Riften in previous games
<Blanko> ok
<Crudblud> Saddam: No one cares, go away
<Blanko> Yes, with a timespan of a thousand years separating them
<Saddam> I've heard some people complain that, say, the Aldmeri Dominion isn't portrayed how it "should" be
<Saddam> And as evidence, they offer forth the absurdly biased Pocket Guide to the Empire
<Blanko> I could argue that nothing in TESO is as it should be because it's a shit game
<Saddam> Irrelevant to lore

And I stand by this.  It's fine to criticize the writing or design of any part of the game, but it's not always a violation of lore.

Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #1082 on: August 13, 2014, 01:45:06 AM »
Bethesda give less shits about their lore than Metzen does about Warcraft.

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« Reply #1083 on: August 13, 2014, 01:47:08 AM »
<Saddam> It's like when people say "This city shouldn't look like that"

loler. Remember when you thought Windhelm's layout in Skyrim was canon?
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« Reply #1084 on: August 13, 2014, 02:02:41 AM »
Call it whatever you want. The point remains the same. 

And what exactly is the point?

I'm not putting forth any views. I'm just axing questions.

Whether this is an argument or not has no bearing on you putting forth any views.

Why would you need one?

To provide an example, obviously. Why else would I ask for one?

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #1085 on: August 13, 2014, 02:05:46 AM »
So I was thinking about the lore of the series and I had an interesting revelation....


Anybody notice the similarities between dwemer and typical Tolkien dwarves? Pretty startling. Its almost like they copy/paste dwarves into ES and called them a different name.

Thoughts?

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« Reply #1086 on: August 13, 2014, 02:08:02 AM »
Call it whatever you want. The point remains the same. 

And what exactly is the point?

It doesn't make sense to deride something for being a certain way when it couldn't possibly be any other way. I've already said that.

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I'm not putting forth any views. I'm just axing questions.

Whether this is an argument or not has no bearing on you putting forth any views.

o................................................................................................ kay? Whether or not you consider this an argument doesn't matter.

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Why would you need one?

To provide an example, obviously. Why else would I ask for one?

You'd like me to provide a list of videogames?
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« Reply #1087 on: August 13, 2014, 02:14:43 AM »
It doesn't make sense to deride something for being a certain way when it couldn't possibly be any other way. I've already said that.

How so?

o................................................................................................ kay? Whether or not you consider this an argument doesn't matter.

If it doesn't matter, then why did you specifically state that this isn't an argument? Are you just inserting irrelevant information into the discussion, now? That's weird.

You'd like me to provide a list of videogames?

Of one's with more novel material than Morrowind, yes.

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« Reply #1088 on: August 13, 2014, 02:22:04 AM »
It doesn't make sense to deride something for being a certain way when it couldn't possibly be any other way. I've already said that.

How so?

If, as you say, all fantasy settings are necessarily and inherently equally unoriginal, then mocking one for being unoriginal would be like mocking a person for having skin.

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You'd like me to provide a list of videogames?

Of one's with more novel material than Morrowind, yes.

Sorry, I thought I was clear about the fact that I was asking for your opinion. What videogames that you are aware of have more novel material than Morrowind?
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« Reply #1089 on: August 13, 2014, 02:28:52 AM »
If, as you say, all fantasy settings are necessarily and inherently equally unoriginal, then mocking one for being unoriginal would be like mocking a person for having skin.

I was mocking you and Saddam, not the game itself. I don't blame the game for being unoriginal, I blame both of you for telling people it is, or worse, actually believing it is.

Sorry, I thought I was clear about the fact that I was asking for your opinion. What videogames that you are aware of have more novel material than Morrowind?

Still need that list, dude.

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« Reply #1090 on: August 13, 2014, 02:30:03 AM »
What list dude?
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« Reply #1091 on: August 13, 2014, 02:31:10 AM »
What list dude?

That list of games you were talking about.

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« Reply #1092 on: August 13, 2014, 02:32:24 AM »
I'm talking about the videogames that you're aware of. The ones that you can recall at least basic information about using your brain. Would you like me to prepare a list of videogames that you're aware of?
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« Reply #1093 on: August 13, 2014, 02:34:29 AM »
I'm talking about the videogames that you're aware of. The ones that you can recall at least basic information about using your brain. Would you like me to prepare a list of videogames that you're aware of?

I can think of two and one of them has more novel material than Morrowind.

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« Reply #1094 on: August 13, 2014, 02:35:17 AM »
Is rushy Foreign?







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« Reply #1095 on: August 13, 2014, 02:37:34 AM »
I'm talking about the videogames that you're aware of. The ones that you can recall at least basic information about using your brain. Would you like me to prepare a list of videogames that you're aware of?

I can think of two and one of them has more novel material than Morrowind.

Okay. Game over. Game, set, match. Point Alexandyr. GG, no re, Morrowind wins, and you can never post in this thread again.

Oh wait I didn't read that right lol. What's the one game with more novel material?
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« Reply #1096 on: August 13, 2014, 02:38:59 AM »
Okay. Game over. Game, set, match. Point Alexandyr. GG, no re, Morrowind wins, and you can never post in this thread again.

Do come back when you want to try again.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls Online/General Elder Scrolls Discussion
« Reply #1097 on: August 13, 2014, 02:40:28 AM »
No wait what's the one game!!!
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« Reply #1098 on: August 13, 2014, 02:41:50 AM »
No wait what's the one game!!!

Oblivion.

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« Reply #1099 on: August 13, 2014, 02:43:33 AM »
No wait what's the one game!!!

Oblivion.

What's the most novel thing about Oblivion?
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