1 Simple question for FEs
« on: May 08, 2017, 10:11:08 PM »
After going through some forum pages over both models, I have seen a simple question come back to FEs without ever seeing a response. So I created an account to ask it myself. Here it is: FEs say that we can't see the sun rays at night on the flat earth because of the distance from it (the sun) to us (they say perspective, distance to vanishing point, atmosphere, etc..). That would be believable but one thing doesn't make it, why can I see the light from the stars that are further to us than the sun is (this is true for both models) when I can't see the light from sun because of it being too far? I have seen the question been asked multiple times but surprisingly, it has always been ignored. So I am making a thread just for a clear answer that makes sense. Please explain this to me. Thank you.
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Re: 1 Simple question for FEs
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2017, 02:13:22 AM »
The stars aren't much further away.  They are right above you.
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Re: 1 Simple question for FEs
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2017, 10:27:55 AM »
The stars aren't much further away.  They are right above you.
But as I said in the post, both models agree on the stars being further away from us than the sun is. So I will ask it again, : Why can I see the light from the stars that are further to us than the sun is when I can't see the light from sun because of it being too far?

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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2017, 11:10:36 AM »
The stars aren't much further away.  They are right above you.
But as I said in the post, both models agree on the stars being further away from us than the sun is. So I will ask it again, : Why can I see the light from the stars that are further to us than the sun is when I can't see the light from sun because of it being too far?

The difference in distance is negligible in FE. It's nowhere near comparable to the trillions of miles separating the stars in RE.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2017, 11:43:07 AM »
The stars aren't much further away.  They are right above you.
But as I said in the post, both models agree on the stars being further away from us than the sun is. So I will ask it again, : Why can I see the light from the stars that are further to us than the sun is when I can't see the light from sun because of it being too far?

The difference in distance is negligible in FE. It's nowhere near comparable to the trillions of miles separating the stars in RE.
That doesn't explain why we can see the stars but not the sun at night. You seem to concentrate on point that don't answer the question. So let me ask you : 1.Why can't we see the sun light at night? and 2. Why does those reason not apply to the stars light at night?
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2017, 02:33:33 PM »
The stars aren't much further away.  They are right above you.
But as I said in the post, both models agree on the stars being further away from us than the sun is. So I will ask it again, : Why can I see the light from the stars that are further to us than the sun is when I can't see the light from sun because of it being too far?

The difference in distance is negligible in FE. It's nowhere near comparable to the trillions of miles separating the stars in RE.
That doesn't explain why we can see the stars but not the sun at night. You seem to concentrate on point that don't answer the question. So let me ask you : 1.Why can't we see the sun light at night? and 2. Why does those reason not apply to the stars light at night?

You seem to misunderstand the situation. At night the stars are directly above and not obscured by the light of the Sun, which we can't see because it's on the other side of the Earth. Hope that helps.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2017, 08:10:46 PM »
The stars aren't much further away.  They are right above you.
But as I said in the post, both models agree on the stars being further away from us than the sun is. So I will ask it again, : Why can I see the light from the stars that are further to us than the sun is when I can't see the light from sun because of it being too far?

The difference in distance is negligible in FE. It's nowhere near comparable to the trillions of miles separating the stars in RE.
That doesn't explain why we can see the stars but not the sun at night. You seem to concentrate on point that don't answer the question. So let me ask you : 1.Why can't we see the sun light at night? and 2. Why does those reason not apply to the stars light at night?

You seem to misunderstand the situation. At night the stars are directly above and not obscured by the light of the Sun, which we can't see because it's on the other side of the Earth. Hope that helps.
So you are suggesting that at night, the stars are closer to us than the sun is, so that's why we see the stars but not the sun? First time that I hear this version of the flat earth. So in the flat earth model, the stars are closer to the Earth than the Sun, any FEs agree with this?

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2017, 11:51:35 PM »
They are only closer to us than the sun tangentially (because again, they are directly above rather than on the other side of the Earth).  They are still above the sun, but only slightly (if I remember right the most popular model on the old website had the sun 3000 miles up and the stars 3100 miles up).  This is standard FE theory.
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