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Flat Earth Debate / Re: The distance between the sun and the earth
« Last post by SexWarrior on Today at 10:16:26 AM »
The wiki doesn't answer to this particular question, the distance between the sun and the earth, which is why I started this thread in the first place.

SexWarrior: as you clearly are a supporter of the flat theory and follow this thread, could you please confirm, question or deny İntikam's claim that the dome prevents us from doing proper measurements – at least those that are based on the assumption that the light travels in straight paths? (I know that this is not exactly a correct assumption because of reflection and refraction, but I believe that concerning this particular topic it is approximately good enough.)
I would start off by warning you about taking Intikam too seriously: he believes he's immortal and that the Illuminati time travellers are out to get him.

With that out of the way, I personally do not believe in a dome/firmament, so naturally I would deny his assertion.
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by SexWarrior on Today at 10:09:57 AM »
Excellent counterarguments, guys. Almost as convincing as SexWarrior's bulletproof debunking of the Trump-Russian connection by repeating the word "meme."
Oh, diddums, are you still upset about your conspiwacy theowy not being all that popular?

b-but the emails guys right haha? right? the emails thing justifies my bush-did-9/11-level stuff somehow yes???
Arts & Entertainment / Re: Cazazza Dan
« Last post by Crudblud on Today at 06:50:23 AM »
Greet'n's ones against, mine fiends. I am here to give the gift of violinistic villainy via An Ængliscmans Partyta, the new musical work of thee one and lonely Cadenza Darn!

Downloads are available in mp3 (V0) and FLAC for those of disconcerting tased.

And streams are upon Bandcamp and Soundcloud.
Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« Last post by honk on Today at 04:46:03 AM »
Oh that's right. I forgot he was on Legends. I stopped watching that one because they can't make time travel work either and the show is all about time travel. And Savage really is Flash's best villain in the comics, what a waste.

The second season was an enormous improvement. It replaced the weaker characters with much more likable ones, stopped focusing on the whys and hows of time travel, stopped having the main characters cause most of the problems they have to solve, and gave them a goal that they could actually progress towards over the course of an episode, rather than one single task they could only fail repeatedly at until the finale. And in contrast to how tragically Vandal Savage was wasted, the villains in this season were fantastic. Not because they had especially flashy abilities or powers, but because they were fleshed-out characters with distinctive personalities and fairly logical motivations. They were fun to watch. That's what Flash has been missing from its last two main villains. It's not the fact that Zoom and Savitar were evil speedsters that stopped them from working well; it's that they spent most of their respective seasons as anonymous figures with no real character or personality, until the dramatic reveals that essentially turned them into completely different characters with nonsensical motivations.

That being said, though, it would be nice to get some variety and not have a speedster for once. Grodd would probably be too expensive from a CGI standpoint. I feel like they really missed an opportunity with Mirror Master by introducing and defeating him in a single episode; he could easily have made for a great arc villain under different circumstances. Shade is cool too, but he was completely fucking wasted by the show - I vaguely remember that he was only the B story in the episode that introduced him. The show hasn't done anything with T. O. Morrow or the Thinker, despite teasing the latter - oh, who am I kidding, they'll just go with this asshole, who'll be voiced by Steve Blum until he pulls his mask off two episodes from the finale and reveals he's fucking Cisco:

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« Last post by junker on Today at 03:52:33 AM »
1) I am happy that the NBA playoffs finally start in just under a week.

2) lol sean boston celtics suck

Changing topics inside the NBA theme (partly because I don't want to endlessly discuss Jordan, those debates can go on forever), I really hope Portland can add another piece and be even more competitive next season. They were really fun to watch and have a ton of potential. What they got from the talent outside of Lillard was nothing short of incredible, especially with most of the starters being gone.

I am sad they did not get any better. Time for Lillard to go to the Spurs...
Your results are consistent with the Flat Earth model. The apparent magnification of the Sun is nullified by the real change in distance between the observer and the Sun. The very fact that you can't perceive a difference attests to that.
Yes - as I explained - the results of my "coin-at-arms-length" experiment are identical for FE and RE.  Neither is proved nor disproved.

All I'm saying is that the vociferous debates about "How does the sun get bigger if it's setting" are entirely, 100% incorrect on both sides of the debate here...because the sun doesn't get bigger when it's setting - and you can do the experiment to prove it, yourself, tonight, very easily.

It is however, a very strong optical illusion and nearly everyone believes it's a real effect until they do the experiment for themselves.

However, the fact that the sun does not get smaller disproves the flat earth model, as there is no such thing as a magnification effect due to the greater amount of atmosphere between us and the sun at sunrise and sunset.
I would claim that the "magnification effect" is simply glare and can be removed with a suitable filter that can show the sharp disk of the sun.

Have a look at this thread The Constancy of the Angular size of the Sun.
Here is a bit of the OP:
Now on Youtube there is a video made by a the Flat Earther, Matrix Decode with very good photos of the sun through a filter (an arc welder's glass) showing the sun at a number of times of day from 9:30 AM to 7:00 PM on 9/March/2016 in Malaga, Spain.

The following screen shots from his video does an excellent job of proving that the sun size does not change!

Do I need to say more? Our kind Flat Earther, Matrix Decode, has said it all!

The "sun does not appear to change its size until just before sunset" - a then only a little in height!
Flat Earth Debate / Re: If the Sun is close...
« Last post by Oami on May 26, 2017, 11:26:17 PM »
A full round takes 24 hours ON AVERAGE.  On only four days a year will the sun's full circuit across the sky take exactly 24 hours, the rest of the year the sun 'moves' across the sky in less than 24 hours or more than 24 hours. 

Ok, thanks.

So the time difference from 24 hours is between -17 and +14 minutes, right? Then the maximum time for one round is 24h14' = 1454 minutes and the minimum 23h43' = 1423 minutes.

But the relation between these is only 1454/1423 = 1.02, which doesn't quite explain my calculations where it is more like 1.7.
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Rama Set on May 26, 2017, 11:24:19 PM »
Excellent counterarguments, guys. Almost as convincing as SexWarrior's bulletproof debunking of the Trump-Russian connection by repeating the word "meme."

Tell me, do you have any context behind Trump's interaction or are you operating on instinct here?

Y'all know that world wars start when big men push aside small countries, right?

I mean, the behavior of a world leader influences alliances, information sharing, dialogs, deals, everything.

Yes it may not SEEM like a big deal but it could be the difference between Trump winning a deal and storming off fuming because he can't get what he wants cause the other side thinks he's a dick and wants to screw him.

It could be. Or this could be blown way out of proportion. I'm going to go ahead and guess that you couldn't tell me definitively either.
Flat Earth Debate / Re: Antarctica Moves
« Last post by Oami on May 26, 2017, 10:55:23 PM »
I'm sure you can find a forum somewhere else on the vast interwebs to debate about fossils, but this isn't that forum.  Fossils offer nothing one way or the other on the topic of flat vs round.

In fact they do.

If same species of fossils are found on different continents, that are separated by sea, then it is a piece of evidence pointing towards the fact that those continents used to be in contact; this in turn requires them to move, and this requires a certain set of mechanics.

In my opinion, though, the fact that Africa and South America still look like adjacent puzzle pieces, is quite a strong evidence in itself.
Announcements / Re: Dr Shaquille O' Neal joins the Flat Earth movement!
« Last post by Parsifal on May 26, 2017, 10:46:33 PM »
As SexWarrior said, this really isn't the place to have this discussion. Locked.