not even really sure what point you're trying to make here. i don't think that the people who support trump and his ideology through nonviolent political activism are in any way responsible for the actions of violent nazis who also vote for trump.
...okay, maybe you still don't understand after all.
they don't owe anyone an apology, and we don't need to solicit a denunciation of violence from kellyanne conway every single time a trump supporter beats up an immigrant while screaming MAGA.
Well, I'm glad
you think that (genuinely, no snark intended), but unfortunately
the mainstream disagrees, and the double standard is a problem. When it's Trump supporters, it's Trump's fault - duh, that's a no-brainer, after all he incited all this violence. But when it's BLM,
oh, oh no, goodness no, we can't link them like that, there's no causal link, only a weak correlation, and uh, can you even show a correlation? t-that's what I thought!even if every violent white nationalist in america voted for trump, it's wholly inappropriate to describe trump, the gop, or conservatism in general, as a violent ideology, or as a nazi ideology, or as racist, or whatever other awful pejorative we want to throw out there. that's nonsense.
If you remain internally consistent in that worldview, that's fine for the purpose of conversation (although I must have missed you getting upset when
other groups were receiving similar treatment - how suspicious!). Unfortunately, we already have a precedent of "denounce your wrongdoing supporters or accept responsibility by proxy". It happens with Trump, it happens with SJWs, it happens with GamerGate, so letting it not happen with BLM is equivalent to giving BLM special treatment. And I see no reason why they should be getting it.
they're at political rallys not hurting anyone.
Rarely, but sure.
they're at voting booths. they're in society being peaceful and productive.
wow nice movement, can I sign up without putting blackface on?
Oh, wait, I can just go and fucking vote and get a job without being a member of a proto-terrorist organisation. Whoop-de-doo.
"but what about this person who didn't do those things???" i dunno what to tell you. other people also exist.
You do know what to tell me, you just really don't want to say it, so instead you focus on "haha you said this thing you didn't say!!!!!" meme-discussions.
you've already given yourself away: "With some luck, we won't have to deal with BLM for much longer." for you this isn't really about opposition to violence. your ideal end result isn't that people practice their beliefs nonviolently; it's the extinction of an idea you don't like. you don't want to have to deal with the idea existing and being promulgated.
Partially correct - in case of BLM, the ceasing of violence and the end of the spread of their message are one and the same, so the distinction becomes a bit blurred. BLM is rooted in lies, personal greed of their leaders, and violence of their misguided followers. If they were to present their arguments in a civilised manner, they would be a curiosity of little significance, kind of like hippies. Like "Haha wow, look at those people, they want to personally receive reparations for slavery. Oh well, they're not hurting anyone". They're only notable because they keep torching shit up and assaulting people, and since that's their only contribution to date, they should be criminalised.
People are welcome to be wrong, but once you start hurting others because of it, the rule of law should step in.
And yeah, I've given myself away
soooo hard. I've been arguing against BLM's case since Mike Brown's shooting, much to your displeasure. I get it, though, you couldn't have possibly guessed that I might dislike BLM until this precise moment, my
grand reveal.
you don't have to look any further than your fucked up belief that supporting blm's politics should be a crime.
Nice argument you've got going there. Care to respond to something I actually said? Supporting BLM's
"politics" is stupid, but you're welcome to be stupid if you want to. I'll go further - your stupidity should not only be allowed, but should be subject to protection insofar that you shouldn't be discriminated against for being stupid. Being part of a violent hate group, however, should be as illegal as is the case with any other violent hate group. You shouldn't get brownie points for being brown.
i see. so the comments on the facebook page for the blm message condemning violence didn't meet your exacting standards, and of course blm is responsible for all the things that get written on its page. lol glad we cleared that up.
i see. so the comments on the facebook page
so the comments
comments
What? Where did you get the word "comments" in what I said? I said "posts". You know, the things that the page has... posted. And yes, I would assume
BLM Chicago is responsible for the things posted on
BLM Chicago's Facebook page by
BLM Chicago.
If they're not, perhaps they should clarify that on Twitter. Or are they not responsible for their tweets either? Hmm, perhaps they could try saying it on TV. No, wait, wait, are they responsible for the things they personally say, or is that still a stretch?
where do you want to move the goalposts to next?
I dunno, I'll probably pretend you said things you didn't say and then smugly respond to them. Maybe I'll tell you that you claimed everyone who voted Trump should be shot in the left testicle - what a fucked up claim that you totally made! You just gave yourself away!!!!!!!