It is really creepy seeing Tom deny what the RE CollectiveTM has done time and again in this thread; namely: do an experiment that contradicts the OP, and provide an explanation why.
We already have a video in the OP of the effect that you need to counter. The author makes a straight line path away from the moon and it does not point towards the sun.
Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 19, 2017, 01:28:05 AMWe already have a video in the OP of the effect that you need to counter. The author makes a straight line path away from the moon and it does not point towards the sun. no he doesn't. that's the whole point. he just points with his finger and assumes that he's making a straight line path. that's a bad experiment. you need to actually make a straight line with something. like, you know, a string. why imagine a straight line when you can use an actual straight line and know for sure?you're not getting that we're all saying that when we did it, the moon did not appear to be 'pointing' at the sun, just like in the video. when i did it, the sun was near the horizon, and the moon was pointing up and to the left, not at the horizon. but when i used the string to make a straight line perpendicular to the moon's terminator, the taut string pointed directly at the sun on the horizon.i mean, damn, tom, what do you have to lose by trying it yourself? we're not asking you to document the experience with video or anything. i already agree that's super impractical. we're just saying that this is a quick, easy, and direct way to see for yourself that it's a straight line.
Zeteticism differs from the usual scientific method in that using zeteticism one bases his conclusions on experimentation and observation rather than on an initial theory that is to be proved or disproved. A zetetic forms the question then immediately sets to work making observations and performing experiments to answer that question, rather than speculating on what the answer might be then testing that out.
that would have gone slightly over his head
Yep, like I said on page one, holding a small ball out at arm's length will result in the same effect.
Ten out of ten for effort Nirmala, be interesting to see what problems the Bish’ will have with it.I have to be honest though, I was a bit disturbed out find out that “The Heron” wore socks with sandals, your neck of the woods an obvious no go area for the fashion police.
The point is that this is an invalid experiment. Limbo has nothing to do with it. While it is possible to get it lined up with the moon's crescent on one axis, you are tilting it on the other axis until there is a spot you can look at it where it lines up with the sun; the stick not truly matching the angle and direction of the moon.
I am not saying that you changed the tilt of the rake as you panned to the sun. I am saying that once you get the bottom end aligned with the crescent, there is another dimension of movement where you can tilt it until it appears aligned with the sun from some point. You could easily point your rake a little more vertical and have it still aligned with the crescent, yet pointing off into space. There is no real verification on exactly which angle is the correct angle.