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Flat Earth General / Re: Evidence of this supposed Ice Wall
« on: Today at 04:47:09 AM »
So what about these "massive ice walls" seen in this picture are to prevent anyone from traveling past this point and gathering actual proof of this edge or the supposed dome that keeps us all in?

What is the distance between this border of ice and the actual supposed edge of the planet?

It's unknown if there even is an edge.

It seems that there is no real consistent flat earth theory.  It always seems to change in order to dodge the facts.

No, this is definitely a traditional part of the theory that really hasn't changed. We try not to assume things that haven't been observed.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Evidence of this supposed Ice Wall
« on: Today at 02:26:52 AM »
So what about these "massive ice walls" seen in this picture are to prevent anyone from traveling past this point and gathering actual proof of this edge or the supposed dome that keeps us all in?

What is the distance between this border of ice and the actual supposed edge of the planet?

It's unknown if there even is an edge.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: June 25, 2017, 04:49:08 PM »
ITT Dither argues against himself only to discover that he agreed with himself all along.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 24, 2017, 03:36:51 PM »
In grudging fairness, he's almost certainly just arguing against it as a hypothetical. If this is true, then why didn't Obama do anything, blah blah blah. It's still wrong, of course,

You're right. He can't possibly have access to the same evidence as everyone else in the intelligence community and the government who say they're sure the Russians tried to meddle, he's only the President.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 24, 2017, 03:27:17 PM »
And this is all happening while the worst health bill in history is about to be pushed through. Hmmm.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 24, 2017, 03:22:14 PM »
That's basically what I meant, is Trump admitting there was Russian meddling in the election? I have no sleep so forgive me

Yes. Apparently he just heard about it and he's so so shocked Obama didn't do anything about it.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 24, 2017, 02:49:46 PM »
It's news that Trump is admitting to it. It is therefore news to his slobbering base.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: FES Book Club
« on: June 24, 2017, 02:43:34 PM »
I am now reading V. by Thomas Pynchon. It's interesting.

I've found that to be his most difficult book, but I know quite a few people who think it is his best, too.

This is an interesting comment, as I originally had my sights on Gravity's Rainbow and chose to read this one first because a lot of people seem to consider that one particularly difficult and recommend reading something else by Pynchon first.

Certainly it's a dense and complicated writing style, but once I got past that I found the story surprisingly easy to follow (to be fair it wasn't quite as complicated as I was expecting). The story of Benny Profane and the Whole Sick Crew was entertaining enough, but what really stood out for me were Stencil's discoveries into the past. It's consistently gripping and sometimes shocking stuff. The chapter early on that tells its story from the perspectives of a series of outside observers was particularly inventive and amusing.

At some points while I was reading it I thought I might have to read it a second time for full comprehension but it all came together in the end (more or less... as much as I think it was supposed to at any rate). In all a very good book.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Evidence of this supposed Ice Wall
« on: June 23, 2017, 02:36:55 AM »
Tom, that image looks remarkably similar to any number of google images for 'ice shelf.' Specifically the Ross Ice Shelf.

Indeed, but you get a much better overview of the Ice Wall on the whole by simply googling "Antarctic coast".

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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does my flat earth friend push so hard?
« on: June 23, 2017, 02:27:07 AM »
See, this is problematic for me, since the burden of proof is on the FE supporters, who make the claim which refutes accepted science.

This is a dubious argument at best. Scientific progress is basically a series of people demonstrating why the accepted dogma of the time is wrong. I mean, Galileo made a claim that refuted accepted science and you lot love him. At the end of the day the burden of proof is on RE because that's the claim that rejects direct observation.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 22, 2017, 08:22:12 PM »
And he continues to con his supporters into thinking he's working for them despite all the evidence to the contrary. He's a downright modern-day PT Barnum this one is.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: June 22, 2017, 12:29:42 AM »
Obvious troll is obvious.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Definition of a Shill
« on: June 21, 2017, 04:59:40 AM »
There could be FET supporters who are paid by an organization to troll forums too. I'm pretty sure the word shill would imply an outside agency in this instance.  I almost hate to say it but I sometimes wonder about Intikam.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: June 17, 2017, 03:03:47 PM »
Yeah no. It's a ridiculous argument because you can't say that if this particular aspect of society that was an inevitable part of its evolution hadn't happened things would be different, because it was inevitable. At any rate I think religion is more a scapegoat than anything else, a convenient excuse for people whose real motivation for going to war is power and wealth. People would want those things whether religion existed or not.

I'm an agnostic btw.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 16, 2017, 11:56:27 PM »
"I don't know, that's for Bob Mueller to sort out."

Those were the words. I imagine Fox is somehow twisting that to be a denial of guilt, and while that's clearly a denial of reality, their legion of followers like TTIOH don't have the cognitive ability to recognize it; what little such ability they have is generally focused on mindlessly parroting their talking points, a la Rush Limbaugh and his proud army of dittoheads (Rush's term, and in a weird way you kind of have to stand in queasy awe of a man able to hold on to such a following while simultaneously showing that following so much contempt) that codified the behavior.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 08, 2017, 02:50:10 AM »
Well it's over. Trump has been completely and totally vindicated.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: FES Book Club
« on: June 08, 2017, 02:23:54 AM »
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with a shaggy dog story as long as it's well-written, which American Gods was, so I had no quibble with it. I'm sure it suggests something about the random nature of the universe, or something.

I just finished Small Gods from the Discworld series. As it dealt intelligently and often viciously with some of my own interests, like religion, mythology, and philosophy, and also had me laughing out loud several times, I think it's one of my favorite books in the series.

I am now reading V. by Thomas Pynchon. It's interesting.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 08, 2017, 12:26:50 AM »
Fixed it. I don't know why it posted it that way; still getting used to posting links from my phone I guess.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: The Dome
« on: June 07, 2017, 08:35:25 PM »
Quote from: geckothegeek
I would think Tom Bishop would have some expertise on the subject ?

Really, you would think Tom would have expertise on a subject that he just told you he didn't know exists? While there are multiple versions of FET out there, Tom really is an expert in the original, as described by Rowbotham. Rowbotham does not mention a dome. So I'm failing to see why you think he'd be an expert on it, or (as he expressly doesn't believe in it) would care about it at all.

At any rate the consensus here seems to be that it doesn't exist, so while I'm sure you were chomping at the bit to argue over the specifics and maybe hurl insults at the respondee, perhaps it's time to swallow your disappointment and move on.

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