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Science & Alternative Science / Re: nukes are NONSENSE!
« on: April 16, 2017, 03:30:09 PM »
This thread has been dead for nearly three months. The post you quoted is almost a year and a half old.

Why are you here?  ???
Because of teh internet.

What happened is that the astronauts were participate in a drill to demonstrate landing on the moon or participating in a series of drills in a very smart environment to demonstrate the ISS, till this part they know they are participate in drill.
when the drill is over their mind is fooling them and implant them new memories which make them believe that the drill was the real thing.
These astronauts are being fooled by their mind, they have false memories, they think they did the real thing, they don't know that they seconds before were in a drill.
Poor people.
Incorrect. It is plain and simple. The astronauts are lying

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Brexit!
« on: June 24, 2016, 12:16:58 PM »

Bastard! There goes the neighbourhood.
Why? It's not like a black person is taking over Britain.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is The Moon A Dormant Cold Sun?
« on: May 27, 2016, 02:09:07 AM »
I was not referring to NASA just in terms of RE FE. I was talking about anything that they say. For instance planet x-3756 is 2.37 trillion light years from us. Or whatever they happen to be talking about. People consider them experts and would not try to say they are wrong about anythng. I am saying that you believe everything NASA says. Therefore anything they say, you will blindly believe. And cannot believe anything else. Brainwashed.

Intikam I usually like what you have to say. I believe that stars are just specks of light in he sky. Is there any proof of meteors providing energy?

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is The Moon A Dormant Cold Sun?
« on: May 23, 2016, 02:13:59 AM »
Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

What utter rubbish! The Globe has been the accepted shape for the earth for well over two thousand years - maybe a little before NASA's time.

The Heliocentric Globe has been accepted for centuries, and NASA's been around about 58 years.

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.
Ok, name one thing that you believe that NASA does not subscribe to.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Is The Moon A Dormant Cold Sun?
« on: May 19, 2016, 01:21:09 AM »
Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Two suns in the sky?
« on: May 18, 2016, 11:16:03 PM »
Do you think you could post these videos? ::)

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Just a general question.
« on: April 12, 2016, 11:17:29 PM »
This may seem to be a fairly simple question, and I'm just wondering because I haven't seen anything about it yet: What is the hypothetical depth of this Flat Earth?
The depth is unkown. The deepest hole drilled is about 7miles.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: gravity
« on: April 04, 2016, 06:26:18 PM »
How convenient.

If you would read the linked material, you will see it was anything but.  There were only three lunar missions with rovers: Apollo 15-17.  On 15 the motor to tilt the camera burned out, so no footage.  On 16 the crew parked the rover in the wrong spot, so Fendell's pre-calculated camera angles were useless with was no time for new calculations, so no footage.  17 was the last chance, and they got it.
Again, how convenient.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: No Stars
« on: March 27, 2016, 10:28:35 AM »

EDIT I say, without understanding the implications, this IS A MAJOR IMPORTANT VIDEO

Finally found one. Hell of a Spring Break, getting into FE and all.

Also sorry for large font, just edited post because this is the single most significant piece of research I've found in my entire life ~at least so it feels... so far. Probably means nothing, ultimately, but this is something that has been driving me nuts. Feel free to ignore the music and text of the video, just the night time launch is enough (why doesn't nasa or anyone have this?)
NASA doesn't have vid because it would s
how the lies they have been inventing.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Perception
« on: March 12, 2016, 01:57:57 AM »
Hoppy has a point.  I imagine the typical REer isn't convinced something is wrong until the doctor has confirmed it for him with more evidence that something is wrong than the fact that his senses are telling him that he's in horrible pain and showing him that his arm is bent horribly wrong.  After all our senses lie to us all the time and simply can't be trusted.  ::)
On the contrary, we REers have no reason to distrust the establishment, and we understand that our perception rarely conflicts with reality, but hardly ever shows the whole story from our scale.  Why would you FEers believe the doctor?  He's pointing out that your arm is obviously broken, but he could be trying to get your money for his own purposes, and is probably indoctrinated by the government.   :P

We FEers have no reason to distrust the establishment either.  I'm not sure where you're going with this.  I don't know how many times REers have told me I'm foolish to believe the Earth is flat just because I perceive it to be flat.  If pressed they often go to great lengths to demonstrate to me that my senses are always lying to me and can never be trusted.  They pull out obvious optical illusions, sets of boxes and vases that look like people and cars that appear to be driving uphill and all kinds of wacky shit.  I find it a wonder that REers are able to believe anything at all, considering that our senses are really our only way of interacting with the world around us, yet they seem to be believe they can't be trusted for anything.

I don't see where "the establishment" has anything to do with it.  In fact, as I've explained previously, medicine is one of the rare arts that puts practical zeteticism into use on a consistent basis and if anything its practitioners' adherence to a discipline so strongly anti-NASA suggests that they are more friend than foe.  I'm really just not sure I agree that NASA is part of "the establishment".  Their influence has weakened a great deal over the years.  Maybe at one time... but honestly, they are more like a novelty at this point than anything else (like a "Weird Al" song, or fake dog poo), and even at that they have gotten stale.
In that case, you are one of a rare breed of FEers, as apparently I am with REers.  Most FEers I have spoken with simply charge ahead with their beliefs, with no regard to whether or not they are actually correct.  It would seem many REers do the same. 

It's true, our immediate perception would suggest that the earth is flat.  There was a time when that was enough, when the heavens were simply a source of wonder and stories, and our business lay on the ground.  But today our perception has widened.  We now live in a world with satellites and GPS, where mankind has been to the moon and our machines have left the solar system.  We have reason to believe that there is more than meets the eye.  But rather than accept that their old perception has been phased out, most FEers will accuse pioneering organizations like NASA of deception and fraud, and dismiss our accomplishments in favor of their own perception.  And apparently, most REers will attack their own perceptions of FEers, and only end up reenforcing the FEers beliefs.  Both sides are guilty of this. 

On the other hand, I am in a position with access to vast amounts of third party evidence that the earth is round.  I am a member of the Space Hardware Club at my university, where we send up high-altitude balloons, participate in the ARISS program, and even have our own cubesat in orbit.  I'm qualified to advocate for NASA and RE in a way few others are.
I saw a video of a night time high altitude balloon flight . It appeared to go so high as to see the sun far off. Have you seen the video? What is your opinion?

Flat Earth Debate / Re: You wouldn't know how fast you're going
« on: March 12, 2016, 01:50:54 AM »
I was asking the NASA expert, rabinoz, thanks for volunteering though lol...

You still don't have an answer for how gravity seems to "taper off exponentially," as opposed to inverse squared distance from the surface of the earth. If your answer is pressure, density, and temperature, then why does gravity even need to be apart of the equation?
The made the whole thing up about gravity. It's kind of like saying magic is pulling things down.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Perception
« on: March 10, 2016, 02:17:48 AM »
Most, if not all, FE supporters anchor their beliefs, theories and arguments in perception.

Are your beliefs, theories and arguments of all aspects of life anchored in perception or is perception limited to or specially reserved for FE theory?

For example, say you fall and break your arm.  You know it's broke because it hurts like hell and may be bent at a weird angle, there is no question of your perception.  When you go to the doctor's office he will take an x-ray of your arm and produce an image of your broken arm so that he knows exactly what he's dealing with.

The rub is that human beings are absolutely incapable of perceiving x-rays.  The image produced is a manipulation, by equipment, to produce a visible spectrum image.

Considering that the average person has absolutely no idea of the true machinations of the x-ray equipment and/or the processing equipment, do you believe these images without question or do you disregard them the same as all images of space travel or distant stars/galaxies, which you label, at minimum, as being manipulated in some fashion?  Since you can NOT see inside your arm and actually perceive the broken ends of the bone do you believe that the manipulated image is, in fact, a true representation of your arm?
It doesn't sound like you trust your own senses. Your arm is bent where there is no joint and hurts like hell. You won't believe your arm is broken until a doctor shows you an x-ray.

Flat Earth General / Re: Gyroscopes
« on: February 20, 2016, 05:48:24 PM »
You're going to need some better kit. The MPU9250 is just barely good enough for your mobile phone to figure out if it's horizontal or vertical.
Given up on the Gyroscope idea - scared it might prove that we live on a rotating globe?
No, I'm just having trouble buying the gyroscopes that I want.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Did I do something wrong?
« on: February 16, 2016, 09:21:31 PM »
What big cities were you expecting to see in Tennessee?

Flat Earth General / Re: Gyroscopes
« on: February 12, 2016, 01:09:58 AM »
It seems that gyroscopes should be studied more.
Pro flat earth gyro video
I don't quite know this guy's point.
I'll answer these in detail later, but aircraft AI gyros do NOT do "prove flat earth"! All they do is give a short term (10 minute or so vertical reference). They have a built in mechanism to gradually reset themselves to this.

One the other hand, just look up how marine Gyro-compasses work. These rely on the rotating earth to set themselves to true north and not magnetic north.

But, unless you like lots of egg on you face, don't try pushing gyros as "proof of flat earth". Small mechanical gyros (as in aircraft) simply do not have the long term stability to do this.
It seems if you had one running on your table for an hour it would show the earths' movement of 15degrees. Why wouldn't it?

Flat Earth General / Gyroscopes
« on: February 11, 2016, 03:24:20 PM »
It seems that gyroscopes should be studied more.
Pro flat earth gyro video

I don't quite know this guy's point.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Water finding it's own level
« on: February 11, 2016, 02:21:14 AM »
Bodies of water have always been flat and forever will remain. There are photos on this and the other site that show things that would be impossible if the earth was round.

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