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Re: Just Watched
« Reply #1740 on: March 20, 2017, 07:53:14 PM »
Logan

Was alright. The emotion, acting, and production were all good. I didn't care for the plot at all.

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Re: Just Watched
« Reply #1741 on: March 22, 2017, 04:08:23 AM »
Iron Fist (Scott Buck, 2017)

Ayyy, I get to play contrarian to Saddam again.

I liked it. Well, enough that I'd say it's "alright". It's weird, because I feel like I've watched a completely different show than a lot of the people calling it a piece of shit. I don't disagree with a lot of the criticisms—the dialogue was bad, the fight scenes weren't great, and the story is weak—but not to such an extreme. I went in thinking I'd agree with all the reviews, but I've come out very differently. Rand was an awfully-written  character, but it had little to nothing to do with Finn Jones. His acting was fine throughout, he just really was not given anything good to work with. The fight scenes in the first half were very poorly done, but they improved dramatically in the second half (and, warning, I thought Daredevil just had alright fight scenes for the most part, too). So did the story, since they basically fully-embraced "hey, this is fucking nuts" and just went off the rails. That's not to say it's great, but I was way more hooked in the second half than I was in the first.

The highlight of the show, actually, are the Meachums. Ward, in particular. I was getting emotional whiplash with all the times he made me feel bad for him then made me hate him one after the other. His felt like the most fully-developed character in the show, and the one who made the most consistent decisions for the most part. Harold was delightfully hateable and...odd enough to be interesting. Joy was, well, Joy. I thought she was kind of fucking stupid but hey I guess she made me feel something.

No, not exactly a glowing review, but it wasn't a great show. Odd pacing, lackluster fight scenes (for the most part), bad dialogue, weak story, etc. I just don't think it's nearly as awful as people are saying. Maybe it's because the MCU and expectations are high (which they shouldn't be after Daredevil season 2), but I'd rather watch Iron Fist than most shit on TV. That being said, so far my MCU Netflix ranking goes:

Jessica Jones: Season 1
Daredevil: Season 1
Daredevil: Season 2 (Part 1)
Luke Cage: Season 1
Iron Fist: Season 1
Daredevil: Season 2 (Part 2)

The biggest disappointment in the show, for me, is that he didn't get his costume!!!! He's got the coolest costume of the bunch, so he better not just be Danny Rand: Vigilante Extraordinaire. So I don't agree with the more extreme views that season two should be axed or Finn Jones replaced, I just think they need a new showrunner and Jones should spend the time up until The Defenders practicing his kung fu.
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Re: Just Watched
« Reply #1742 on: March 24, 2017, 12:28:23 AM »
I just don't think it's nearly as awful as people are saying. Maybe it's because the MCU and expectations are high (which they shouldn't be after Daredevil season 2)

I'd say it's the inverse - fans have dramatically lowered their standards because of their general level of hype and excitement, and are willing to enjoy anything that has the Marvel logo and goes through the motions of being capeshit. I'm confident that after a few weeks, maybe months, the dust will settle and the fans currently insisting that "it's not so bad" will admit that the show was basically shit. I mean, you seem to already be conceding that the show is shit in your review, but that you still somehow unironically enjoyed it.

Also, the fan backlash against critics slamming the show for playing the "mighty whitey" trope straight and its general portrayal of race is ridiculous. For one thing, it's a perfectly valid criticism of the show, and for another, there isn't a single reviewer that hasn't provided plenty of other reasons for panning the show.
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Re: Just Watched
« Reply #1743 on: March 24, 2017, 03:26:50 AM »
I can't think of many instances where getting hyped has made my expectations lower. And before you cry about my fangirling, that has little to do with my hype and everything to do with being blinded as a fangirl. Generally if I'm hyped about something (cough and such watchdogs coughing) it raises my expectations dramatically, which is one of the main reasons I've tried to stop hyping myself about things.

Also, I'm not conceding it's "shit", just that it's not good. It was an okay/alright show I enjoyed thanks to some characters and plotlines (Ward and Ward); most of my argument is literally "I don't think it's as bad as people say". The difference between a 2/10 rating and a 5/10 rating.

I know you have a hard time with subjectivity and people having differing opinions (granted, I just find it really fucking annoying when people say shit like "in x amount of time you'll agree" as some weird way to deflect disagreement off to some vague future point), but I'm so non-enamoured by this show that I'm confident my opinion on it is not likely to change much. Just like I think the same of Daredevil season 1 as I did after I watched it, or Jessica Jones, or Luke Cage, or Daredevil season 2...
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Re: Just Watched
« Reply #1744 on: March 24, 2017, 09:50:32 PM »
I can't think of many instances where getting hyped has made my expectations lower. And before you cry about my fangirling, that has little to do with my hype and everything to do with being blinded as a fangirl. Generally if I'm hyped about something (cough and such watchdogs coughing) it raises my expectations dramatically, which is one of the main reasons I've tried to stop hyping myself about things.

Also, I'm not conceding it's "shit", just that it's not good. It was an okay/alright show I enjoyed thanks to some characters and plotlines (Ward and Ward); most of my argument is literally "I don't think it's as bad as people say". The difference between a 2/10 rating and a 5/10 rating.

I know you have a hard time with subjectivity and people having differing opinions (granted, I just find it really fucking annoying when people say shit like "in x amount of time you'll agree" as some weird way to deflect disagreement off to some vague future point), but I'm so non-enamoured by this show that I'm confident my opinion on it is not likely to change much. Just like I think the same of Daredevil season 1 as I did after I watched it, or Jessica Jones, or Luke Cage, or Daredevil season 2...

The show is bad and your opinions are bad. Also, I want to see a fight between Danny and Liam Neeson's character from the Taken movies:





(btw I meant to say "standards" instead of "expectations")