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Re: The Moon
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2017, 02:31:25 AM »
The distance to the moon is solidly known. If you have a steady enough aim (Not your hand, some kind of system), a laser, a receiver, and good timing software for it, you can calculate using the speed of light as a known constant and the return time to get the distance. We have done this using the Lunar Rangefinding Receivers, left by the Apollo astronauts.

Amateur radio operators have also calculated the distance to the moon in their "Moon Bounce" experiments, using the speed of radio waves as a constant and the return time to get the distance. They have done this by transmitting radio signals to the moon, "bouncing" them off the moon's surface , and noting when they were received back on the earth.
The results compared with the known distance and it was not 3,000 miles. On one example the distance was calculated to be 238,150 miles.
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Re: The Moon
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2017, 04:07:05 PM »
You may as well point us to Aristotle's 2000 year old book which contains his perspective theory illustrations; which is right next to his book which tells us that flies spontaneously generate from rotting meat.


Or a more recent book by a quack who faked his experiments, ran from any debate and was a known fraud.  Wow, that sounds like someone here.
Do you have a citation for this sweeping generalisation?

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2017, 04:39:57 AM »
You may as well point us to Aristotle's 2000 year old book which contains his perspective theory illustrations; which is right next to his book which tells us that flies spontaneously generate from rotting meat.


Or a more recent book by a quack who faked his experiments, ran from any debate and was a known fraud.  Wow, that sounds like someone here.

That is quite a claim you have made there. Although you didn't name anyone specifically, so you could just be making things up.

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2017, 02:50:16 PM »
You may as well point us to Aristotle's 2000 year old book which contains his perspective theory illustrations; which is right next to his book which tells us that flies spontaneously generate from rotting meat.


Or a more recent book by a quack who faked his experiments, ran from any debate and was a known fraud.  Wow, that sounds like someone here.

That is quite a claim you have made there. Although you didn't name anyone specifically, so you could just be making things up.


I think there's not much doubt what author/con man/experiment faker I am talking about.
Do you have a citation for this sweeping generalisation?

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2017, 04:14:20 PM »
You are assuming that large scale perspective works in that manner.
  Why would it not?  How would it actually change?

We already went over that in this thread.
No, not really, only you basically saying "no one has physically measured it, so I assume it changes."

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There is no evidence for those Ancient Greek ideas of how perspective works at large scales.
So with no evidence or explanation as to what causes perspective to bend (I suppose we can call this bendy perspective), you're saying it just so happens to do it in a way that makes things look like they would if Earth were a globe.

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Re: The Moon
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2017, 11:31:33 PM »
Quote: "The distance from New York to Paris is unknown." : End of  quote