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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2017, 10:57:05 PM »
Right, and you are making that call based on a 30 year timelapse between the photos? Lol. You are seeing what you want to see.

Towards the end of my source article the author attempts to look for birth records of those brothers on Ancestry.com, the most comprehensive genealogy website in the US, and found no records of their birth.

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Newspapers and TV's were a thing back then. This event was all over the news. Their names and faces were all over the news.

Yes, but no one was really looking for them, and trust in NASA was through the roof. They may have had them lie low for a while, and figured that everything would be okay. No one said that NASA was very good at this.

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Like I said, you are seeing what you want to see. Their voices definitely don't sound alike. Finding a picture of them making a similar facial expression is not particularly convincing.

This isn't just passing resemblance here. They are twins right down to that odd lip dip thing she has going on.

They have the same name, they look alike, and have the same facial ticks. It's more than mere chance coincidence.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2017, 11:19:46 PM »
You've stumped me!
Blue. One blew this way, one blew that way.

Too soon? lol ;D

Wow. Dark...

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Newspapers and TV's were a thing back then. This event was all over the news. Their names and faces were all over the news.
Yes, but no one was really looking for them, and trust in NASA was through the roof. They may have had them lie low for a while, and figured that everything would be okay. No one said that NASA was very good at this.

So good that they managed to pull off a massive conspiracy without being caught, but so incompetent that they would let the people whose deaths they faked just walk out and live public lives without changing their names or appearances? Lol, ok...

And "lie low"? Richard Scobee was a CEO even before disaster happened!

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Like I said, you are seeing what you want to see. Their voices definitely don't sound alike. Finding a picture of them making a similar facial expression is not particularly convincing.
This isn't just passing resemblance here. They are twins right down to that odd lip dip thing she has going on.

They have the same name, they look alike, and have the same facial ticks. It's more than mere chance coincidence.

Reznik is one of the ones that I originally said looks the LEAST like her doppleganger. I repeat, you are seeing what you want to see.

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2017, 11:50:35 PM »
So good that they managed to pull off a massive conspiracy without being caught, but so incompetent that they would let the people whose deaths they faked just walk out and live public lives without changing their names or appearances? Lol, ok...

Again, in 1986 the internet was barely an email and bulletin board system, no one had any idea what it could become. None of this would have been discoverable back then at all. The technology of today was unimaginable. People were more anonymous back then. Simple instructions like move to another city and work in a different field may have seemed sufficient to an organization who had never really done this before. They may have even offered to pay to send them back to school.

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And "lie low"? Richard Scobee was a CEO even before disaster happened!

Did you think he would list "Dead Astronaut" on his bio?

Notice how he does not list the date of graduation from his university.
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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2017, 11:51:37 PM »
So good that they managed to pull off a massive conspiracy without being caught, but so incompetent that they would let the people whose deaths they faked just walk out and live public lives without changing their names or appearances? Lol, ok...

Again, in 1986 the internet was barely an email and bulletin board system, no one had any idea what it could become. None of this would have been discoverable back then at all. People were more anonymous back then. Simple instructions like move to another city and work in a different field may have seemed sufficient to an organization who had never really done this before. They may have even offered to pay to send them back to school.

Which is why witness protection never bothered changing people's names either... oh wait. They did.

I noticed you deleted some stuff questioning Judith Reznik's past. In case you are still curious...
https://www.law.yale.edu/judith-resnik
https://www.law.yale.edu/system/files/documents/pdf/JResnik_Publications.pdf

There are multiple publications from before the Challenger disaster. Apparently Yale is now a part of the conspiracy too?

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And "lie low"? Richard Scobee was a CEO even before disaster happened!

Did you think he would list "Dead Astronaut" on his bio?

Notice how he does not list the date of graduation from his university.

"Hey, what should my back story be?"
"Pretend to be a CEO. That should be easy to get away with!"
"Brilliant!"

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2017, 12:17:28 AM »
Which is why witness protection never bothered changing people's names either... oh wait. They did.

That would involve convincing other federal agencies to join in on your scam. Sounds risky.

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I noticed you deleted some stuff questioning Judith Reznik's past. In case you are still curious...
https://www.law.yale.edu/judith-resnik
https://www.law.yale.edu/system/files/documents/pdf/JResnik_Publications.pdf

She wrote and dated all of that herself. But it appears that most of her career achievements took place after 2000. Pretty late for an old lady like that.

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"Hey, what should my back story be?"
"Pretend to be a CEO. That should be easy to get away with!"
"Brilliant!"

He went back to school for an MBA. If he was as ambitious as he was in his past life, it follows that he would be a CEO in his new one.

These dead astronauts were reckless and ambitious and achieved too much. Now their pictures are plastered all over the internet.

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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2017, 12:35:40 AM »
Which is why witness protection never bothered changing people's names either... oh wait. They did.

That would involve convincing other federal agencies to join in on your scam. Sounds risky.

Bahahahaa! This makes zero since. So they are still operating under their old SSN? And that's not riskier than trying to get their name changed? Or did they get them a new SSN, forge a work history, family history, but decided "nah, let them keep their old name"? Lol.

Alright, that's all the stupid I can handle for today...

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2017, 02:10:42 AM »
Bahahahaa! This makes zero since. So they are still operating under their old SSN? And that's not riskier than trying to get their name changed? Or did they get them a new SSN, forge a work history, family history, but decided "nah, let them keep their old name"? Lol.

Alright, that's all the stupid I can handle for today...

The author of the article exposing the astronauts notes that he searched ancestry.com for SSDI death records for several astronauts and they were not found. A later update towards the bottom in May of 2015 he says that he was suddenly able to find SSDI records for the astronauts on Ancestry and hints at the possibility of the government modifying the SSDI records similar to another case.

Presumably the government did not file proper death records until people started to investigate this matter and they had to sound the alarms and cover up their sloppy mistakes, just as they have tried to cover up so many other mistakes.
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2017, 03:00:13 AM »
The only thing that doesn't add up is why exactly they would want to do this? What agenda would be worthy of this major black eye?

New World Order George was in office so who knows, possibly could have been just a distraction for something even more shadowy and conspiratorial

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2017, 01:43:08 PM »
There's again no motive. Why would they fake a failure?

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2017, 04:30:00 PM »
There's again no motive. Why would they fake a failure?

The motive is covering up a prop malfunction.

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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2017, 04:41:56 PM »
There's again no motive. Why would they fake a failure?

The motive is covering up a prop malfunction.
But why wouldn't they just cover up that there was any failure at all?

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2017, 05:04:53 PM »
There's again no motive. Why would they fake a failure?

The motive is covering up a prop malfunction.
But why wouldn't they just cover up that there was any failure at all?

Millions of people saw an alleged space ship full of people blow up spectacularly on live TV. They had to do something about that.

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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2017, 05:23:36 PM »
There's again no motive. Why would they fake a failure?

The motive is covering up a prop malfunction.
But why wouldn't they just cover up that there was any failure at all?

Millions of people saw an alleged space ship full of people blow up spectacularly on live TV. They had to do something about that.

NASA is good, but you would need Jedi Mind Tricks or the Flashy Pen from MIB to cover that up lol

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2017, 05:34:41 PM »
There's again no motive. Why would they fake a failure?

The motive is covering up a prop malfunction.
But why wouldn't they just cover up that there was any failure at all?

Millions of people saw an alleged space ship full of people blow up spectacularly on live TV. They had to do something about that.
But couldn't they have just made a fake segment to show to the TV companies? Why would they have a REAL prop that ALSO could blow up?

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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2017, 05:39:43 PM »
Keep in mind, we still haven't been shown any good evidence that it was a cover-up in the first place. Is the existence of a few lookalikes really the only "evidence" that you have? In the spirit of the season: Sad! Weak! Terrible!

But couldn't they have just made a fake segment to show to the TV companies? Why would they have a REAL prop that ALSO could blow up?

Lot's of people saw it live. Even if you were nowhere near the launch site, you could see the plume of smoke from miles and miles away.

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2017, 03:35:25 AM »
Keep in mind, we still haven't been shown any good evidence that it was a cover-up in the first place. Is the existence of a few lookalikes really the only "evidence" that you have? In the spirit of the season: Sad! Weak! Terrible!

Because identical doppelgangers with the same name are so common?

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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2017, 07:12:57 AM »
Keep in mind, we still haven't been shown any good evidence that it was a cover-up in the first place. Is the existence of a few lookalikes really the only "evidence" that you have? In the spirit of the season: Sad! Weak! Terrible!

Because identical doppelgangers with the same name are so common?

Yes. Allow me to introduce you to...

Dr. Lloyd Thomas "Tom" Bishop. RIP.



Tom Bishop.



I found these in about 30 seconds with a google image search. Your argument is dumb.
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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2017, 04:25:39 PM »
Keep in mind, we still haven't been shown any good evidence that it was a cover-up in the first place. Is the existence of a few lookalikes really the only "evidence" that you have? In the spirit of the season: Sad! Weak! Terrible!

Because identical doppelgangers with the same name are so common?

Yes. Allow me to introduce you to...

Dr. Lloyd Thomas "Tom" Bishop. RIP.



Tom Bishop.



I found these in about 30 seconds with a google image search. Your argument is dumb.

Hardly identical. But how do we even know if Tom's real name is even Tom or that Tom's, or whoever he really is's, picture is really a picture of a Tom named Tom Bishop? Not to mention, how did he get younger before he died? Have we found the real reptilian?

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2017, 04:56:59 PM »
Yes, hardly identical. One guy has blue eyes and straight teeth and the other guy has brown eyes and a gap in his teeth.

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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2017, 05:20:02 PM »
Hardly identical.

Imagine them with glasses and a derpy frown. Not identical, but about as close as the Challenger lookalikes.

Yes, hardly identical. One guy has blue eyes and straight teeth and the other guy has brown eyes and a gap in his teeth.

Funny that you only bring up the teeth discrepancy now. (See: McNair, McAuliffe)

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But how do we even know if Tom's real name is even Tom or that Tom's, or whoever he really is's, picture is really a picture of a Tom named Tom Bishop? Not to mention, how did he get younger before he died? Have we found the real reptilian?

I think you are missing the point.