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Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« on: January 28, 2017, 09:18:25 PM »
How do other flat Earthers feel about this incident?
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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2017, 02:38:45 PM »
How do other flat Earthers feel about this incident?
They don't think about it. They don't want to live in a world where either people are killed in pursuit of an unreachable goal, or in a world where the government kills people to keep up their space conspiracy.

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2017, 04:59:45 PM »
How do other flat Earthers feel about this incident?
They don't think about it. They don't want to live in a world where either people are killed in pursuit of an unreachable goal, or in a world where the government kills people to keep up their space conspiracy.

Can you please quit posting nonsense in the upper fora? You clearly have no understanding of FET, or the motives of its supporters. You are making up some random opinion on a question that wasn't directed at you.
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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 10:18:19 AM »
How do other flat Earthers feel about this incident?
They don't think about it. They don't want to live in a world where either people are killed in pursuit of an unreachable goal, or in a world where the government kills people to keep up their space conspiracy.

Can you please quit posting nonsense in the upper fora? You clearly have no understanding of FET, or the motives of its supporters. You are making up some random opinion on a question that wasn't directed at you.
In some sense, Rekt is correct. I think this is backed up by the lack of posts and replies to this topic. Apathy is a clear winner.

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 12:03:55 AM »
Prop malfunction.

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 04:39:22 AM »
Prop malfunction.
What a disgusting way to pass off the deaths of seven people, just because your closed mind can't accept the truth.

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2017, 02:04:42 PM »
Prop malfunction.
What a disgusting way to pass off the deaths of seven people, just because your closed mind can't accept the truth.
I'm pretty sure that independent people also found pieces of Challenger.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/18/us/challenger-parts-wash-ashore-almost-11-years-after-explosion.html

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2017, 09:36:10 PM »
Prop malfunction.
What a disgusting way to pass off the deaths of seven people, just because your closed mind can't accept the truth.
I'm pretty sure that independent people also found pieces of Challenger.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/18/us/challenger-parts-wash-ashore-almost-11-years-after-explosion.html

They found pieces of a prop.

Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2017, 10:50:01 PM »
Prop malfunction.
They found pieces of a prop.

... he said confidently, without evidence, thereby accusing an entire industry of pulling off a flawless stunt involving thousands of people, without leaks, for weakly justified reasons.

Edit: Speaking of stunts, care to comment on this thread that you are still conspicuously ignoring?
Edit edit: obviously not flawless, since it malfunctioned. derp.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2017, 10:54:05 PM by TotesNotReptilian »

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2017, 01:09:50 AM »
Why would it have to involve thousands of people? You don't think that's an enormous exaggeration?

Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2017, 03:43:11 AM »
Why would it have to involve thousands of people? You don't think that's an enormous exaggeration?

Perhaps. It was mostly just a guess. There were certainly thousands that worked on building the shuttle or managing its missions. Design and manufacturing, software, mission planning, communications, management...

It would take quite a bit of research to narrow it down to the minimum number required to run such a conspiracy. I suspect it would be hundreds at the minimum, but more likely in the thousands. But like I said, it's just a guess.

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2017, 02:06:49 PM »
Prop malfunction.
What a disgusting way to pass off the deaths of seven people, just because your closed mind can't accept the truth.
I'm pretty sure that independent people also found pieces of Challenger.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/18/us/challenger-parts-wash-ashore-almost-11-years-after-explosion.html

They found pieces of a prop.
So you're ACTUALLY telling me that they made an ACTUAL shuttle that COULD FLY....... but it was just a prop..... that malfunctioned? Okay. Assuming that you're correct, I'll look at this from your perspective. They spent millions of dollars on fake math and engineering to find what a spacecraft should look like and do on a spherical earth. They spent more on fake math of how the orbits would work, and then published all of this completely useless math that works on a round earth that doesn't exist. So they've already invented an entire new planet, reality, and several new types of math, along with inventing quite a few new laws of physics. They then build on this by making several hugely expensive rockets, many of which fail on launch, just to.... hit the dome? They then recruit astronauts, brainwash them or whatever, and send them somewhere and back down, either tricking them or keeping them quiet. They continue to send up more and more complex rockets, again publishing huge volumes of work, all of which checks out flawlessly, all with the assumption of the globe earth, also publishing limited amounts of pictures and videos and broadcasting them live. They then go on the Apollo Program, hiding the astronauts somewhere (They got in the rocket, they didn't get out, it launched and nothing came down but parts that hit the ocean), for several days, sending back hundreds of pictures of our moon, then they fake a landing there (They would need some kind of.... zero gravity chamber?..... to simulate the movement of the dust in the videos and there is too much footage for a plane in a parabolic arc) They then get their funding lowered due to Vietnam and low public interest, and start to work on the shuttle "Prop", which can obviously fly, as many have seen, and caries a fuckton of fuel, so it's going SOMEWHERE. They continue through test flights, not any great accomplishments, but the shuttle does its job, and it does it well. You then have the Colombia disaster, where Shuttle Columbia disintegrates over Texas, after re-entering with a loose heat shield. (No idea what the flat earthers think about how this happened) You start building the International Space Station (That's an argument for another day), and then you lose Challenger, shortly after liftoff. The shuttle program gets shut down a bit later, and now they're going to space courtesy of the Russians, with unmanned probes being launched every so often, and returning a lot of data (Let me guess, they just INVENTED unique characteristics for every planet). SO for this conspiracy to work you need the government of every country to collaborate, you need somewhere to put the Apollo astronauts for a few days, as radar would detect any return, you need to somehow keep International Space Station astronauts in the sky for months when space doesn't exist, and invent an entire new reality and make several books worth of calculations based on it. That's a bit..... far fetched, to say the least.

Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 05:00:28 PM »


Bonus Question: does anyone know what color Christa McAuliffe's eyes were?

Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2017, 07:58:06 PM »


Congrats at finding some lookalikes? Top right woman and bottom left guy don't even look much like their doppleganger. The others are plausible given the ageing, but its hardly convincing. Did you bother looking up the history of the dopplegangers?

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Bonus Question: does anyone know what color Christa McAuliffe's eyes were?

You've stumped me!

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2017, 08:06:48 PM »
It's interesting that several of those people have the same or similar names as their Challenger doppelgangers.

Source: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/04/30/are-the-crew-members-of-1986-space-shuttle-challenger-still-alive/











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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2017, 09:40:40 PM »
Notice the upper lip of the Judith Resnik woman:



Also compare the voice and tone of the astronaut Judith Resniks and the professor Judith Resniks:


Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2017, 10:12:30 PM »
It's interesting that several of those people have the same or similar names as their Challenger doppelgangers.

Source: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/04/30/are-the-crew-members-of-1986-space-shuttle-challenger-still-alive/











2 of them are pictures of their brothers. Lol. Surprise, surprise, brothers look alike.

And yes, there are hundreds of millions of people in this country. There are many instances of people with the same name with vaguely similar looks. On numerous occasions, I have looked up people on facebook by name, clicked on a profile picture that I thought was of them, only to realize that I had the wrong person after looking at their profile details.

The entire premise of this is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that if NASA really faked their deaths, they would let them keep their old names? Or that they would make them assume the lives of their brothers without anyone noticing?

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Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2017, 10:29:00 PM »
2 of them are pictures of their brothers. Lol. Surprise, surprise, brothers look alike.

Plausible, but adult brothers of the same parents usually look different, not identical.

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The entire premise of this is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that if NASA really faked their deaths, they would let them keep their old names? Or that they would make them assume the lives of their brothers without anyone noticing?

The disaster happened on Jan 28th, 1986, long before the internet took off. They may have moved the astronauts to a new city and thought that would be enough. The internet was still very early and mostly in text only stage, and this kind of independent investigation may not have been forseen.

The Judith Resnik women are definitely the same woman.

Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2017, 10:38:05 PM »
2 of them are pictures of their brothers. Lol. Surprise, surprise, brothers look alike.

Plausible, but adult brothers of the same parents usually look different, not identical.

Right, and you are making that call based on a 30 year timelapse between the photos? Lol. You are seeing what you want to see.

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The entire premise of this is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that if NASA really faked their deaths, they would let them keep their old names? Or that they would make them assume the lives of their brothers without anyone noticing?

The disaster happened on Jan 28th, 1986, long before the internet took off. They may have moved the astronauts to a new city and thought that would be enough. The internet was still very early and mostly in text only stage, and this kind of independent investigation may not have been forseen.

Newspapers and TV's were a thing back then. This event was all over the news. Their names and faces were all over the news.

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The Judith Resnik women are definitely the same woman.

Like I said, you are seeing what you want to see. Their voices definitely don't sound alike. Finding a picture of them making a similar facial expression is not particularly convincing.

Re: Today is the 31st anniversary of the Challenger Disaster...
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2017, 10:49:28 PM »
You've stumped me!

Blue. One blew this way, one blew that way.

Too soon? lol ;D