Chicago police were made aware of this video Tuesday afternoon. A young African American woman streamed the video live on Facebook showing at least four people holding a young white man hostage.The victim is repeatedly kicked and hit, his scalp is cut, all while he is tied up with his mouth taped shut. The suspects on the video can be heard yelling, "F*** Donald Trump! F*** white people!"
There is free speech and there is being an annoying twat. This user is exercising his right to the latter.
"person x did action y, therefore characteristic z must be causally related."excellent reasoning 10/10 would infer again
What are you referring to, specifically? Given how much they were yelling "fuck Trump" and "fuck white people", it seems very likely to be politically and racially motivated.
that a trump supporter harms an immigrant and yells #MAGA while doing it doesn't indicate that the act and the belief are causally related.
Where live, do the offer adult reading classes?
Quote from: garygreen on January 05, 2017, 03:10:30 AM that a trump supporter harms an immigrant and yells #MAGA while doing it doesn't indicate that the act and the belief are causally related.On a technicality, sure. However, there is ample social (and legal, in case of the right wing) precedent for accepting that causal relation is extremely likely in this case. If we took your approach, the only way for someone to be convicted of a hate crime would be if they outright shouted "I am assaulting you because of your characteristic x, of which I greatly disapprove and thus I chose to discriminate against you"
FE'ism requires suspension of disbelief...
Any credible argument I have seen comparing BLM to KKK has been making a de facto comparison. Whatever their ideologies, the expression has been uncomfortably similar.
You're doing God's work, junker.
It's cool guys the police have said it wasn't because he was white, but because he was disabled. And we all know the quality and integrity of the CPD, so nothing to see here...http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-police-race-motive-video-attack-44570046
i take the op to be a continuation of the narrative that movements like BLM are in some way ideologically connected to the use of violence. that's the only point i take any issue with.
evidently they don't teach much reconstruction era american history in canada or finland.
there appears to be a strong correlation between being a black BLM supporter and beating the shit out of white people while chanting racist slurs.
Are you suggesting my education and what I'm saying are causally related??
Quote from: garygreen on January 05, 2017, 07:01:29 AMi take the op to be a continuation of the narrative that movements like BLM are in some way ideologically connected to the use of violence. that's the only point i take any issue with.I wouldn't say they're ideologically connected, but there appears to be a strong correlation between being a black BLM supporter and beating the shit out of white people while chanting racist slurs. It's just another version of the #NotAllMen debate, except this time the men are explicitly black, which seemingly makes the mainstream narrative lean in the opposite direction.
What happened to the young man who was held captive and tortured is terrible and we condemn the violence that was perpetrated against him. We've stated time and time again, that we're against all types of harm and violence perpetrated and we've never condoned it.