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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2016, 03:24:01 PM »
https://www.noties.nl/v/get.php?a=peil.nl&s=weekpoll&f=2016-12-04d.pdf

PVV has gained another seat, and VVD lost one. That means PVV now has a 10-seat lead.

Just needs to maintain it for another 3 months, and they'll be elected to almost certain government.
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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2016, 10:30:26 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/world/europe/geert-wilders-netherlands-trial.html

This is only likely to bolster his popularity even further. I'm looking forward to seeing this weekend's Peil numbers.
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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2016, 12:10:45 PM »
https://www.noties.nl/v/get.php?a=peil.nl&s=weekpoll&f=2016-12--11.pdf

PVV is another 2 seats ahead and VVD 1 behind, making for a 13-seat lead. PVV now has almost as many seats as the next two parties combined.

There was also this poll earlier in the week:

https://www.noties.nl/v/get.php?r=pp164505&f=Veroordeling+Wilders.pdf

50% of Dutch people thought Wilders should have been acquitted, and 55% thought that it was a bad decision to prosecute him.

Regarding the earlier discussion about GroenLinks, it comes as no surprise that 87% of GroenLinks voters agreed with the guilty verdict (though some disagreed with the judgment giving him no penalty). GroenLinks is second only to PvdA (Labour Party) in opposing free speech.
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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2016, 12:23:24 AM »
http://m.democracynow.org/headline/45700

Would you say Holland's government has a tendency to invoke police state powers as frequently as France?

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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2016, 05:29:05 AM »
http://m.democracynow.org/headline/45700

Would you say Holland's government has a tendency to invoke police state powers as frequently as France?

No, but the Netherlands hasn't had as many successful terrorist attacks in recent years as France (or Belgium or Germany, for that matter). This is likely attributable to their more cautious refugee intake process, which is only going to become stricter once Wilders is in power.
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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2016, 01:05:02 PM »
http://nltimes.nl/2016/12/16/pm-rutte-eu-agree-ukraine-deal-dutch-opposition-furious

Mark Rutte has struck a deal with other EU countries to press on with the Ukraine association agreement that was rejected in a nationwide referendum earlier this year. He has attempted a "compromise" in which the agreement is amended to explicitly exclude it from being a "stepping stone" to EU membership for Ukraine, with which he appears to have succeeded in antagonising everyone equally. Not only are other EU states displeased with the amendment, but the Dutch people are displeased with the agreement being ratified against their vote.

It's exactly this sort of thing, putting EU politics ahead of voters at home, which has driven the populist movement to where it is now. Clearly PVV's rising popularity has taught the established ruling class nothing. Maybe the election on 15 March will be a learning experience.
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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2017, 12:27:48 AM »

http://www.pvv.nl/index.php/36-fj-related/geert-wilders/9403-geerts-angels.html

Wilders has published his party's list of candidates for this year's election, with the #2 and #3 spots being taken by the lovely ladies in the picture above.

Also, there will be a new Peil opinion poll tomorrow, the first of 2017. It will be interesting to see how much the terror attacks over the Christmas period have bolstered PVV's standing.
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2017, 12:34:41 PM »
As it turns out, PVV lost 1 seat in the latest poll. They're still way ahead of everyone else, though.
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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2017, 08:36:28 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2017, 11:31:29 PM »

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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2017, 10:36:20 AM »
http://nieuwsnl.org/wereld/2017/01/26/88468-premiersdebat-rtl-nieuws-met-vier-lijsttrekkers.html

On 1 February, it will be decided which party leaders will participate in the RTL debate. RTL Nieuws is a Dutch news broadcaster which traditionally holds a debate with the leaders of the four biggest parties before an election, but this year there are a lot of parties very close in the polls around spot 4, so there may be more participants.

About the only thing we can be certain of is that Geert Wilders (PVV) and Mark Rutte (VVD) will be involved.

The actual debate itself happens on 26 February, and will be Wilders's first. Given the enormous hatred between him and the other parties, this could get heated.
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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2017, 06:02:47 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/01/31/populist-geert-wilders-praises-donald-trumps-travel-order.html

Wilders is praising Trump's actions as president, much to the indignation of his political opponents.
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« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2017, 01:40:32 PM »


Meanwhile, the current ruling party is desperately tweeting out videos of moderately comforting news headlines in a last-ditch effort to save votes.
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2017, 06:02:32 PM »
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Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2017, 10:30:13 PM »
http://www.nu.nl/politiek/4460955/wilders-ziet-af-van-koranverbod.html

Wilders has decided not to push ahead with a policy of banning the Qur'an. This will likely be a huge boost to both his popularity in the election, and his chances of forming a coalition government after the election.
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« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2017, 02:42:21 AM »
One month until the big day.
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« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2017, 07:08:49 AM »
http://www.nu.nl/politiek/4460955/wilders-ziet-af-van-koranverbod.html

Wilders has decided not to push ahead with a policy of banning the Qur'an. This will likely be a huge boost to both his popularity in the election, and his chances of forming a coalition government after the election.

Banning books is never a good idea. I'm glad Wilders has finally taken that back.

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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2017, 08:51:42 AM »
Banning books is never a good idea. I'm glad Wilders has finally taken that back.

I agree. I'm not sure he was ever serious about it in the first place; he brought it up in the context of a debate about banning Mein Kampf. It really speaks volumes that nobody gives a shit about Mein Kampf being banned, but they shit all over Wilders for wanting to ban the Qur'an.

What's puzzling to me is why he included it in his election platform, but that doesn't matter now that he's clarified his position.


Meanwhile, VVD is ramping up their assimilation policies as the election gets closer:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraaf.nl%2Fbinnenland%2F27630194%2F___Integratie_moet_strenger___.html&edit-text=
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