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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2017, 09:29:17 AM »
If you like I can take the OP and debunk it in a very basic manner using nothing but language if there's any genuine interest.

It would only be fair to the OP you are discrediting. And as I said, I don't have any deep knowledge of the Quran, but from what I've studied from the torah and the bible it is very ambiguous as to the shape of the Earth. Nowhere does it definitively describe the Earth as a sphere or a flat plane.

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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2017, 10:07:56 AM »
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They ignore everything regarding Flat Earth quotes which we all know.

- Qur'an 15:19
"And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. "
Spread out does not mean flat. It indicates vast expanse. According to two major commentaries (Jalalyn, Asab an-Nuzul) it doesn't mention like a carpet. One suggests "Spread out over water" hence the mention of mountains like pegs to hold the Earth from swaying beneath us violently. The enormity cannot be ignored at all when it comes to Earth.

Also, what is the need to state "spread out" as an accomplishment? It's only worth a mention when the reality is different to what is perceived.

Conclusion: This verse does not state the Earth is flat nor does it indicate that it's flat in it's entirety. There is no contradiction between saying that it is round and saying that it was spread out, because in fact in its totality it is round, but to the one who stands on it and looks at it, it appears flat to everyone where in reality it's spread out to appear flat and to a certain extent (radius) it is flat.


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- Qur'an 20:53
"He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others. "

- Qur'an 43:10
(Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in order that ye may find guidance (on the way);

- Qur'an 50:7
And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)-

- Qur'an 51:48
And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out!

- Qur'an 71:19
And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)

- Qur'an 78:6
Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse

Now you'll see all these verses have the same outcome of the above. None of it states that the Earth if flat completely in its entirety.

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- Qur'an 79:30 [THIS HAS DOUBLE MEANING, Some say Dahaha which is spread out, or stretch, and other say Dahaha the verb from Dahiye, which is ostrich egg, which can mean (as they say) that the Earth is an egg shape, an ostrich egg shape.
But it's obvious in my opinion, that Dahaha belongs to the normal verb, it's not usual to use a verb out of a name, especially in this ostrich egg shape verb.

Ostrich egg is not in any major commentaries. It cannot be taken in any argument.

So again, "spread out"

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Many Islamist apologists attempt to deflect criticism that the Qur'an promotes the mistaken belief of a flat earth by the word dahaha used in Qur'an 79:30, commonly translated as ‘spread’ or ‘stretched’.

This proves that the original poster has done no research and simply copy pasted this from somewhere else who was actually trying to prove that Islam says the Earth is flat. The original poster didn't even bother reading through it to remove this statement from the original articles that he pasted.

And to answer that: "Many" "Muslim Apologists" (not Islamist) do not deflect criticism. The translation is "spread" or "stretched" and none of those describe the entire Earth as flat. And the author even debunked himself in the following which again the OP forgot to remove.

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Most of Qur'an Translators said it's Stretched, which belong to flat earth theory, and not the egg shape, as following:

Qur'an Translations
Yusuf Ali: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); [4]
Pickthal: And after that He spread the earth, [4]
Arberry: and the earth-after that He spread it out, [4]
Shakir: And the earth, He expanded it after that. [4]
Sarwar: After this, He spread out the earth, [4]
Hilali/Khan: And after that He spread the earth; [4]
Malik: After that He spread out the earth, [4]
Maulana Ali: And the earth, He cast it after that. [4]
Free Minds: And the land after that He spread out. [4]
Some translations have attempted to translate the word dahaha to mean made egg-shaped or like an ‘ostrich egg’.

Khalifa: He made the earth egg-shaped. [4]
QXP: And after that He made the earth shoot out from the Cosmic Nebula and made it spread out egg-shaped. ('Dahaha' entails all the meanings rendered (21:30), (41:11)). [4]

Transliteration: Waal-arda baAAda thalika dahaha
Literal: And the earth/Planet Earth after that He blew and stretched/spread it. [4]

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- Qur'an 91:6
By the Earth and its (wide) expanse

This also doesn't suggest flat in its entirety.

To anyone trying to use the Quran to prove it's wrong or that it says the Earth is flat, stop making such pathetic attempts. It's embarrassing.

Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2017, 05:09:11 PM »
@TotesReptilian you're not worth the time

Just trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2017, 07:07:17 AM »
@TotesReptilian you're not worth the time

Just trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.
Cheap tricks. Not gonna work. As I said, you're not worth the time. Good day

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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2017, 02:18:17 PM »
@TotesReptilian you're not worth the time

Just trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.
Cheap tricks. Not gonna work. As I said, you're not worth the time. Good day

What on earth are you talking about? What cheap trick? Using colors? I can show you how to use it if you want. Then we will be on an even playing field.


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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2017, 03:52:40 PM »
@TotesReptilian you're not worth the time

Just trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.
These are typical cheap tricks. Like I said, it's not gonna work. Good day

Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2017, 09:05:21 PM »
@TotesReptilian you're not worth the time

Just trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.
These are typical cheap tricks. Like I said, it's not gonna work. Good day

Heh. Denial about going into denial. Denialception. Nice.

(I do appreciate your more in-depth response covering the interpretation of each verse.)

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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2017, 12:21:13 PM »
Hi @Muslim ,

I too came across this thread through a Google search and I am curious. With all respect, before I ask my question, I am not saying that you claim or didn't claim something or anything. I would just like to know if you knew of any verses in the Quraan that indicates that the Earth is a sphere?

Thank you

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The above is all rubbish.

Firstly, there's no mention in the Quraan that it's FLAT.

A carpet or turf can be laid out on any terrain even if it's arched. It doesn't have to be flat. To compare and say a carpet cannot be laid on a football is just ridiculous and you wouldn't deserve a reply on something so daft.

It's mentioned as a great gift in the verses the fact that the the Earth is spread out so wide that we can live on it. So it looks flat, but it's not and the Quraan does NOT say it is flat.

I have asked scholars, here you have cowboys pretending to be scholars and speaking on behalf of Muslim's beliefs.

We do not believe the Earth is flat.

Show me one verse that says the Earth is flat. Don't put your own understandings and meaning or interpretations. Just show a clear verse. If it was flat, why wouldn't Allah just say so? In fact, every verse indicates that it's a sphere except to those who have already fallen flat on the Flat Earth madness.

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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2017, 08:50:17 AM »
Hi @Muslim ,

I too came across this thread through a Google search and I am curious. With all respect, before I ask my question, I am not saying that you claim or didn't claim something or anything. I would just like to know if you knew of any verses in the Quraan that indicates that the Earth is a sphere?

Thank you

I have registered just to reply to this as it shows up on Google.

The above is all rubbish.

Firstly, there's no mention in the Quraan that it's FLAT.

A carpet or turf can be laid out on any terrain even if it's arched. It doesn't have to be flat. To compare and say a carpet cannot be laid on a football is just ridiculous and you wouldn't deserve a reply on something so daft.

It's mentioned as a great gift in the verses the fact that the the Earth is spread out so wide that we can live on it. So it looks flat, but it's not and the Quraan does NOT say it is flat.

I have asked scholars, here you have cowboys pretending to be scholars and speaking on behalf of Muslim's beliefs.

We do not believe the Earth is flat.

Show me one verse that says the Earth is flat. Don't put your own understandings and meaning or interpretations. Just show a clear verse. If it was flat, why wouldn't Allah just say so? In fact, every verse indicates that it's a sphere except to those who have already fallen flat on the Flat Earth madness.

Hi,

From everything I've checked to date, there's nothing specific or direct of a sphere. But the key point here is that it does not in any way say the entire Earth is flat (like a plate or bowl). However, there are many things clearly mentioned in the Qur'aan that was impossible to know more than a hundred years ago.

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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2017, 07:33:22 PM »
Quran has been changed??????
Are you a Muslim. ... you know nothing about quran and Islam. ... Coz Allahﷻ in Quran says indeed we protect our book ... and if you dont believe it you are a non_Muslim. ....

I believe it for sure, but in the beginning Islam says that Earth is flat, then when USA went to the moon, Islam changed their thought and said Earth is a sphere, and started to extract the aya which proves that Quran says Earth is a sphere, and they changed their mind about Earth, and now, I'm just saying that Islam pointed at flat earth more than globe. in the end, God knows, please don't make problems and start to KAFFER another muslim n stuff. I thought i can delete comments on this post.. if i could, ur comment here started a fitne between you and others.
Whether it is or not, Ashhahadu Anna La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad Rasulu Allah, whether it's a flat or not, I witness that there is no God but one God Allah, and Muhammad is one of his messengers, beside Jesus, Moses, and others. And Jesus will comeback we will fight to his side against anti-christ.
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2017, 07:51:29 PM »
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(5) He created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night: He has subjected the sun and the moon (to His law): Each one follows a course for a time appointed. Is not He the Exalted in Power - He Who forgives again and again?

this ayat means that the day and night are persistant, this ayat is not a proof of globe

yes and that was their only quote I think to say that Earth is a globe. but because our scholars believed what their eyes saw, they believed the movie of the moon landing.. they believed what all the countries are believing.. you know I don't know a government a muslim government that is really taking Allah as the only source of power and authority in this world. I know a lot of individuals who believe truly believe in Allah and depend on him Tawakkul on him, but I don't know a muslim government that taking Quran in full consideration.. you think if there is a government who really believes in Allah, would we reach this place ?
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2017, 08:16:16 PM »
Welcome. It's interesting to hear about the Flat Earth from an Islamic perspective.

Have you seen that classic piece of Iraqi television in which a humble astronomer takes on a so-called "physicist" and deconstructs his globularist propaganda live on air? At one point, the physicist holds up a science textbook as if he's hoping it will protect him from the onslaught of sheer truth. :)



Thanks for sharing, I just saw it, you know although that Old man looks like a non-photogenic science character (as the media show scientists) yet I liked him and would believe him more than that well-suited trash scientific smartass man who hold a book in English called Science.. they do believe in Science they take it as a religion, or they take Science first, then they take Quran or bible. they want the Quran and Bible to be according to the Science, the Science first, then God. only in this way they can believe in God.. I think this is a test for the faith.. I'm not saying that God will not accept them, I don't know.. but those who believe in God to the point that don't care about Science or other things.. for sure will have much bigger rewards than those who put Quran/Bible as the 2nd book after the Science book.. the pseudo-science hollywood book... very sad.. yesterday I was crying in the street walking and looking at poeple and crying... you know.. they live in a different world.. no one knows about my/your problem except my/yourself and God only. God is the closest to a humanbeing.. more than family more than anyone..
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2017, 08:18:21 PM »
Hello Mohamad, welcome to the forums. Thank you for posting the information from the Quran relating to the creation of the Earth. I began reading it years ago and found it pretty much identical to the Torah and what Christians call the first Testament of The Holy Bible. It is interesting to me to see others who have come to contemplate flat earth through spiritual means. If you look into the index of this subforum you will see a thread of mine dealing with Intelligent Design and the Flat Earth. It raises the question as to why, among the large portion of society that believes in God, most fully believe in a spherical Earth even though it is incompatible with what religions have taught for thousands of years.

You will find the Flat Earth Society very disinterested in exploring this avenue. They prefer to try to coexist with modern science, eventhough that is about as likely as creationism coexisting with evolution. Many here are very attached to their worldview. My personal stance is that through logic and reason, we can eliminate evolution and the big bang as the cause of our being. The probabilities that time alone somehow organized the 60,000 proteins found in even a single cell organism are astronomical. The third law of thermodynamics states that things are more likely to become more chaotic over time, not achieve any meaningful order. The complexities that define higher forms of life, and the planet Earth itself, in my opinion, show more than enough evidence of intelligent design.

<3 I wish I heard your advice before, the past year was very hard for me.. you are right.. you seem to be very experienced about the reaction of people when they hear about Flat Earth :)
Respect <3
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Re: The Qurān & Flat Earth
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2017, 08:18:50 PM »
Indeed :)

The Qurān explicitly delineates a flat non-rotating Earth.
In fact, the textus confutes Helios-centrism on many occasions !


افلا ينظرون ... الى الارض كيف سطحت
Do they not then look/gaze — at the Earth, how was it flattened ?

The Honourable Qurān is the most misunderstood book in the world.
FE is but one droplet in it, if truth be told.

A diamond in the rough.

Regards


Arabist and Qurānist, among other things.

I agree with you <3
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2017, 08:19:59 PM »
Hi everybody,
Recently I have watched the Principle movie; in which you can see a debate about if Earth/human being are Significant or not. While They don't discuss the Earth shape, they focus on its location in the universe. More evidences in the documentry show that Earth is the center. Recommended since Flat & Geocentric are connected (i think so).

thanks for sharing, if you have a link to download would be nice..
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2017, 08:20:30 PM »
Hi everybody,
Recently I have watched the Principle movie; in which you can see a debate about if Earth/human being are Significant or not. While They don't discuss the Earth shape, they focus on its location in the universe. More evidences in the documentry show that Earth is the center. Recommended since Flat & Geocentric are connected (i think so).

I do remember watching the trailer for that a while ago. I will check it out, thanks.

same i saw a trailer, seems interesting
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2017, 08:24:38 PM »
Hello Muhammet,

As a Turk i say you wellcome to forum and Turkey, "hoşgeldin".

First i  must say that i'm sorry for you here, i know you have a war on your country caused by our PM dicdator Erdoghan supporting to terrorism on your country. This is a bit our mistake because we elected him, but be sure we was not know he'll be a dicdator because he were talking good. :)

I know most of your writen because as a muslim i passed on same way.

Actually islamic scholars changed quran by same way that what happened to torah and bible. They can't change the verses but chance it's means (meals), (translations). Their act depends on the idea that "islam don't conflict to science". This is a nonsence. Most of Reverends depends on this idea because quran encourages research and read. But this not mean "change the meaning of the verses fit to science.

When i saw FE's i see that they are really saved what bible say about earth. This is really interesting that islamic Reverends did they give up easily, but i see christian reverends resisted better then islamic reverends. to be the last religion, the last being the book didn't help them. Yes i'm nevertheless still muslim. Because this is not islamic mistake, this mistake caused by some men believed to NASA 1969 lie.

Anyway. I hope you find out the truth.

Thanks kardes, Allah razi olsun.. I agree with everything you said.. you know Allah says:
to be a Mu'min is to believe in Allah, and his angels, and "his books" (books, not only the quran, all of them including bible and others) so in my opinion, some important information we can take from Bible and old testament) and also you know the rest.. to believe in all his massengers and fate the good and bad. all coming from Allah.
I congratulate you and salute you for your knowledge and way of thinking, I would love if we get in contact as well, I sent you my number.. God protects you and bless you <3 Allah korusun <3
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2017, 08:29:29 PM »
relax, muslims don't fight with each other
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2017, 08:36:12 PM »
I have registered just to reply to this as it shows up on Google.

The above is all rubbish.

Firstly, there's no mention in the Quraan that it's FLAT.

A carpet or turf can be laid out on any terrain even if it's arched. It doesn't have to be flat. To compare and say a carpet cannot be laid on a football is just ridiculous and you wouldn't deserve a reply on something so daft.

It's mentioned as a great gift in the verses the fact that the the Earth is spread out so wide that we can live on it. So it looks flat, but it's not and the Quraan does NOT say it is flat.

I have asked scholars, here you have cowboys pretending to be scholars and speaking on behalf of Muslim's beliefs.

We do not believe the Earth is flat.

Show me one verse that says the Earth is flat. Don't put your own understandings and meaning or interpretations. Just show a clear verse. If it was flat, why wouldn't Allah just say so? In fact, every verse indicates that it's a sphere except to those who have already fallen flat on the Flat Earth madness.

Relax, only believing in Allah is the most important.. if we both believe in Allah, then if I am older than you, you must respect me as your old brother, and if you are older than me, then I respect you as my old brother.
the rest of information are not valuable.. it's just a topic.. not important, because as you said, it wasn't clear, maybe Allah didn't make it clear to see how far can Satanic people can lie about Humankind, how far Muslim people can accept each other, can we fight over this topic ? can I/you kill you/me over this topic? we are brothers.. this is a trash topic to make you/me upset.. you are more important and valuable to me than this topic.. you are more valuable to me if you believe in Allah, you are valuable to me than the whole Earth whether its flat or sphere.. isn't like that ?

In heaven, there is a Tree called Touba, this tree is one which is responsible about washing clothes of Mumins in heaven, if there were two brothers walking and the tree was in the middle of their way, the tree will move just not to divide two brothers...
I hope you get the point of what I mean.. and forget about Flat/Globe.. it's not important subject... you and me, the relationship between believers is the important thing.. only that is the important thing..
peace & love to you and all believers in God... together in sha'a Allah will unite under the banner of Jesus Almaseeh peace upon his soul and we will free the world of all Evil, they know this, and we know it, just a matter of patience and time..
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Re: Islam & Flat Earth
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2017, 08:54:59 PM »
Hi @Muslim ,

I too came across this thread through a Google search and I am curious. With all respect, before I ask my question, I am not saying that you claim or didn't claim something or anything. I would just like to know if you knew of any verses in the Quraan that indicates that the Earth is a sphere?

Thank you

I have registered just to reply to this as it shows up on Google.

The above is all rubbish.

Firstly, there's no mention in the Quraan that it's FLAT.

A carpet or turf can be laid out on any terrain even if it's arched. It doesn't have to be flat. To compare and say a carpet cannot be laid on a football is just ridiculous and you wouldn't deserve a reply on something so daft.

It's mentioned as a great gift in the verses the fact that the the Earth is spread out so wide that we can live on it. So it looks flat, but it's not and the Quraan does NOT say it is flat.

I have asked scholars, here you have cowboys pretending to be scholars and speaking on behalf of Muslim's beliefs.

We do not believe the Earth is flat.

Show me one verse that says the Earth is flat. Don't put your own understandings and meaning or interpretations. Just show a clear verse. If it was flat, why wouldn't Allah just say so? In fact, every verse indicates that it's a sphere except to those who have already fallen flat on the Flat Earth madness.

Hi,

From everything I've checked to date, there's nothing specific or direct of a sphere. But the key point here is that it does not in any way say the entire Earth is flat (like a plate or bowl). However, there are many things clearly mentioned in the Qur'aan that was impossible to know more than a hundred years ago.

it's nice to say that, in peace, you see, when you are calm everything is nice and everyone is happy.. we all know that Quran is the most important and is the only truth.. only truth.. and I just ask my brothers to open their eyes to this subject the Flat Earth subject when they read Quran.. and may Allah show us the path
peace and love to all muslims in the world
Whether it is or not, Ashhahadu Anna La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad Rasulu Allah, whether it's a flat or not, I witness that there is no God but one God Allah, and Muhammad is one of his messengers, beside Jesus, Moses, and others. And Jesus will comeback we will fight to his side against anti-christ.
no need to fight between Muslims/Christians/Jews on this topic, its not worthy, our brother-ship in God is what only matters. and to fight Satanism