Quote from: Muslim on February 10, 2017, 07:03:39 PMIf you like I can take the OP and debunk it in a very basic manner using nothing but language if there's any genuine interest.It would only be fair to the OP you are discrediting. And as I said, I don't have any deep knowledge of the Quran, but from what I've studied from the torah and the bible it is very ambiguous as to the shape of the Earth. Nowhere does it definitively describe the Earth as a sphere or a flat plane.
If you like I can take the OP and debunk it in a very basic manner using nothing but language if there's any genuine interest.
They ignore everything regarding Flat Earth quotes which we all know.- Qur'an 15:19"And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance. "
- Qur'an 20:53"He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others. "- Qur'an 43:10(Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in order that ye may find guidance (on the way);- Qur'an 50:7And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)- - Qur'an 51:48And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out! - Qur'an 71:19And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out)- Qur'an 78:6Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse
- Qur'an 79:30 [THIS HAS DOUBLE MEANING, Some say Dahaha which is spread out, or stretch, and other say Dahaha the verb from Dahiye, which is ostrich egg, which can mean (as they say) that the Earth is an egg shape, an ostrich egg shape.But it's obvious in my opinion, that Dahaha belongs to the normal verb, it's not usual to use a verb out of a name, especially in this ostrich egg shape verb.
Many Islamist apologists attempt to deflect criticism that the Qur'an promotes the mistaken belief of a flat earth by the word dahaha used in Qur'an 79:30, commonly translated as ‘spread’ or ‘stretched’.
Most of Qur'an Translators said it's Stretched, which belong to flat earth theory, and not the egg shape, as following:Qur'an TranslationsYusuf Ali: And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);  Pickthal: And after that He spread the earth,  Arberry: and the earth-after that He spread it out,  Shakir: And the earth, He expanded it after that.  Sarwar: After this, He spread out the earth,  Hilali/Khan: And after that He spread the earth;  Malik: After that He spread out the earth,  Maulana Ali: And the earth, He cast it after that.  Free Minds: And the land after that He spread out.  Some translations have attempted to translate the word dahaha to mean made egg-shaped or like an ‘ostrich egg’.Khalifa: He made the earth egg-shaped.  QXP: And after that He made the earth shoot out from the Cosmic Nebula and made it spread out egg-shaped. ('Dahaha' entails all the meanings rendered (21:30), (41:11)).  Transliteration: Waal-arda baAAda thalika dahahaLiteral: And the earth/Planet Earth after that He blew and stretched/spread it. 
- Qur'an 91:6By the Earth and its (wide) expanse
@TotesReptilian you're not worth the time
Quote from: Muslim on February 11, 2017, 09:29:17 AM@TotesReptilian you're not worth the timeJust trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.
Quote from: TotesNotReptilian on February 11, 2017, 05:09:11 PMQuote from: Muslim on February 11, 2017, 09:29:17 AM@TotesReptilian you're not worth the timeJust trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.Cheap tricks. Not gonna work. As I said, you're not worth the time. Good day
Quote from: TotesNotReptilian on February 11, 2017, 05:09:11 PMQuote from: Muslim on February 11, 2017, 09:29:17 AM@TotesReptilian you're not worth the timeJust trying to help. If you want to go into denial/defensive mode, that's your business. Have fun.These are typical cheap tricks. Like I said, it's not gonna work. Good day
I have registered just to reply to this as it shows up on Google.The above is all rubbish.Firstly, there's no mention in the Quraan that it's FLAT.A carpet or turf can be laid out on any terrain even if it's arched. It doesn't have to be flat. To compare and say a carpet cannot be laid on a football is just ridiculous and you wouldn't deserve a reply on something so daft.It's mentioned as a great gift in the verses the fact that the the Earth is spread out so wide that we can live on it. So it looks flat, but it's not and the Quraan does NOT say it is flat.I have asked scholars, here you have cowboys pretending to be scholars and speaking on behalf of Muslim's beliefs.We do not believe the Earth is flat.Show me one verse that says the Earth is flat. Don't put your own understandings and meaning or interpretations. Just show a clear verse. If it was flat, why wouldn't Allah just say so? In fact, every verse indicates that it's a sphere except to those who have already fallen flat on the Flat Earth madness.