I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« on: February 09, 2016, 10:04:02 PM »
An updated rotating Sun/Moon thing:




An image including rotation cycles:




A thingy that reflects RE lighting on the FE map:

« Last Edit: February 10, 2016, 02:15:57 PM by trekky0623 »

Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2016, 06:50:57 AM »
Very nice.

However, this model fails to explain the solar precession, the westward shift of the Sun measuring 1.5 km per year.

In 4000 years, the orbit the Sun will have exceeded either the boundary of the Tropic of Cancer, or that of the Tropic of Capricorn.

Also, the sun does rise and set each and every day.
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2016, 10:32:50 AM »
Very nice.

However, this model fails to explain the solar precession, the westward shift of the Sun measuring 1.5 km per year.

In 4000 years, the orbit the Sun will have exceeded either the boundary of the Tropic of Cancer, or that of the Tropic of Capricorn.

Also, the sun does rise and set each and every day.
Considering that it's a short GIF, we can let that slide.  Cause, you know, 4,000 years isn't going to be shown in one gif.

But feel free to make one of YOUR model.  I'm sure we'd all be interested.
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2016, 02:07:07 PM »
I'm actually going to change the rotation one because I forgot star movements change in the Southern hemisphere. Others are good though.

EDIT: k fixed
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2016, 02:09:10 PM »
The spotlight of the sun shouldn't be a blunt half-circle. It would be oval in shape.
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2016, 02:31:40 PM »
The spotlight of the sun shouldn't be a blunt half-circle. It would be oval in shape.

I can fix it later if you want. Should I use something between equinox and summer solstice or something?

EDIT: How's this:

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2016, 12:41:47 PM »
EDIT: How's this:

Looks good, except that you have the Sun just north of the Equator, but its spotlight is in summer solstice position. You'll either want to spread out the spotlight a bit more, or move the Sun up to the Tropic of Cancer.
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2016, 01:24:05 PM »
EDIT: How's this:

Looks good, except that you have the Sun just north of the Equator, but its spotlight is in summer solstice position. You'll either want to spread out the spotlight a bit more, or move the Sun up to the Tropic of Cancer.

I could maybe fix it later but I'm pretty busy the rest of the week. This is from early May, not the solstice. Someone else could try, but I think this is at least better than the current one.

Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2016, 06:28:44 AM »
The spotlight of the sun shouldn't be a blunt half-circle. It would be oval in shape.
It would have to be a blunt half circle on either equinox. It has to be.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2016, 09:35:59 AM »
It would have to be a blunt half circle on either equinox. It has to be.
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 06:41:21 PM »
When the sun is in the Southern hemisphere, it reflects off of the firmament and sends a glow around the edge of the earth giving a 'midnight sun' to the entire perimeter. A bit like below, but they have made the curve the wrong way. The cut out of darkness should be more a smooth crescent.



You end up with these bounces that reverberate around the rim lighting it up like a glass lantern with the firmament glowing daylight right round the rim.
 


You can also get a similar effect with the moon (very similar size and location of celestial body, only dimmer and less pronounced)


This isn't a photographic error. It is a reflection from the firmament that can be seen with the naked eye.

These have been reported for centuries
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2016, 12:02:29 AM »
Good work Thork, I know we have advocated similar ideas in the past on the .org forum, and the pictures you provided make sense. This should go in the Wiki under Cosmos -> The Sun -> Midnight Sun as a possible explanation.
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2016, 01:17:48 PM »
Trekky, I should have asked before uploading the image, but... welp, it's too late for that now. Could you please clarify the licensing on these images? Most of our Wiki content is CC BY-SA 4.0
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Re: I made some new pictures for the wiki.
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2016, 01:17:06 PM »
I split the debate off the thread and moved it here:

http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4704.0