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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2015, 10:03:42 PM »
Tom Bishop just doesn't make sense. :o ??? Or maybe Tom Bishop can explain this. By the very definition ominidirectional is in all directions and a spotlight shines in only one direction or you could say it is unidirectional ?

Actually, a spotlight can be the light fixture or the spot of light it creates. A sun which makes a spotlight does not imply unidirectional light.

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Still I  have received no answer on how the moon is illuminated according to flat earth theory ?

There is no atmosphere in space.

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2015, 10:22:01 PM »
Tom Bishop just doesn't make sense. :o ??? Or maybe Tom Bishop can explain this. By the very definition ominidirectional is in all directions and a spotlight shines in only one direction or you could say it is unidirectional ?

Actually, a spotlight can be the light fixture or the spot of light it creates. A sun which makes a spotlight does not imply unidirectional light.

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Still I  have received no answer on how the moon is illuminated according to flat earth theory ?

There is no atmosphere in space.

Tom, geckothegeek asked the question, how does the moon  illuminated according to flat earth theory? I too would like to know how the sun can illuminate the moon when the sun is so much further in space then the moon.

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2015, 11:08:21 PM »
Tom, geckothegeek asked the question, how does the moon  illuminated according to flat earth theory? I too would like to know how the sun can illuminate the moon when the sun is so much further in space then the moon.

There is no atmosphere in space.

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2015, 03:30:45 AM »
Tom Bishop just doesn't make sense. :o ??? Or maybe Tom Bishop can explain this. By the very definition ominidirectional is in all directions and a spotlight shines in only one direction or you could say it is unidirectional ?

Actually, a spotlight can be the light fixture or the spot of light it creates. A sun which makes a spotlight does not imply unidirectional light.
Actually, it does.  That's what spotlights do.  They provide narrow, unidirectional beams of light that illuminate relatively small, specific locations.
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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2015, 04:16:37 PM »
Tom Bishop just doesn't make sense. :o ??? Or maybe Tom Bishop can explain this. By the very definition ominidirectional is in all directions and a spotlight shines in only one direction or you could say it is unidirectional ?

Actually, a spotlight can be the light fixture or the spot of light it creates. A sun which makes a spotlight does not imply unidirectional light.
Actually, it does.  That's what spotlights do.  They provide narrow, unidirectional beams of light that illuminate relatively small, specific locations.

It's a good thing we went out of our way to describe how a sun can cast a spotlight without being a spotlight, isn't it?

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2015, 06:10:39 PM »
Tom Bishop just doesn't make sense. :o ??? Or maybe Tom Bishop can explain this. By the very definition ominidirectional is in all directions and a spotlight shines in only one direction or you could say it is unidirectional ?

Actually, a spotlight can be the light fixture or the spot of light it creates. A sun which makes a spotlight does not imply unidirectional light.
Actually, it does.  That's what spotlights do.  They provide narrow, unidirectional beams of light that illuminate relatively small, specific locations.

It's a good thing we went out of our way to describe how a sun can cast a spotlight without being a spotlight, isn't it?
Not really, because it's wrong.  A theater lighting tech uses a spotlight to illuminate a specific location on the stage, not 1/2 the stage.  If you have any doubts, remember that the clue is in the name.
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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2015, 08:31:11 PM »
Tom, geckothegeek asked the question, how does the moon  illuminated according to flat earth theory? I too would like to know how the sun can illuminate the moon when the sun is so much further in space then the moon.

There is no atmosphere in space.

Good answer. So, do you believe the moon is self illuminating?

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2015, 08:31:46 PM »
Tom Bishop just doesn't make sense. :o ??? Or maybe Tom Bishop can explain this. By the very definition ominidirectional is in all directions and a spotlight shines in only one direction or you could say it is unidirectional ?

Actually, a spotlight can be the light fixture or the spot of light it creates. A sun which makes a spotlight does not imply unidirectional light.
Actually, it does.  That's what spotlights do.  They provide narrow, unidirectional beams of light that illuminate relatively small, specific locations.

It's a good thing we went out of our way to describe how a sun can cast a spotlight without being a spotlight, isn't it?
Not really, because it's wrong.  A theater lighting tech uses a spotlight to illuminate a specific location on the stage, not 1/2 the stage.  If you have any doubts, remember that the clue is in the name.

This from the flat earth wiki.:
"The sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward as it moves." ?

Along with the animated diagram the sun is shown rotating above the flat earth with a definite round circle that a spotlight would show. ?

Moon and sun are both shown in the same orbit. ?

Moon and sun are both shown in motion. ?
 
Moon and sun are shown as always being 180 degrees apart. ?

Moon and sun are shown as traveling at exactly the same speed. ?

Moon and sun are shown as being the same size. ?

Moon and sun have been shown as being the same distance from the earth. ?

No indication is shown how the moon shines on the earth. ?

The earth is shown as the commonly known Azimuthal Equidistant Projection of the globe. ?

No accurate map, or even one map, has ever been produced showing the entire earth as a flat disc. ?

The earth is not a flat disc. The earth is a round globe.

The whole idea of "The sun is a spotlight"  is wrong for all these reasons. Guilty on all counts.

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If the sun is a spotlight and shines only downward on the earth, in addition to the moon how are the other planets such as Mars and Venus illuminated ?

A spotlight has to have some kind of reflector behind the lamp or light bulb to direct the light in one direction and some means to focus the beam in a circular pattern. If the sun is a spotlight, or acts like a spotlight, what kind of reflector and focusing device would the sun have to have to be a spotlight or act like a spotlight ?

A more accurate statement would be.:
"The sun acts like a light bulb and shines in all directions."

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2015, 03:18:11 AM »
I am reasonably certain that most visitors to this website (except maybe a few so-called flat earthers) really know how the sun and the earth act and interact .

I was just interested in seeing how the flat-earthers were going to try to get out of this and explain creditably about this "spotlight". "To dream the impossible dream !" ???
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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2015, 05:08:18 PM »
Hello ? Where did everybody go ? Tom Bishop ?

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2015, 05:12:51 PM »
Hello ? Where did everybody go ? Tom Bishop ?
Tom is probably talking with the people at Merriam-Webster about redefining the word "spot".
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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2015, 05:19:32 PM »
Hello ? Where did everybody go ? Tom Bishop ?
Tom is probably talking with the people at Merriam-Webster about redefining the word "spot".

Maybe there is something in some of Rowbotham's noted scholastic works ?

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2015, 05:23:57 PM »
Tom, geckothegeek asked the question, how does the moon  illuminated according to flat earth theory? I too would like to know how the sun can illuminate the moon when the sun is so much further in space then the moon.

There is no atmosphere in space.

Good answer. So, do you believe the moon is self illuminating?

The only flat earth answer I have seen is the moon shrimp ? Hopefully, maybe Tom Bishop can clear up this question ? But we are getting off topic. The question was about the sun, not the moon ?
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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2015, 05:40:52 PM »
Hello ? Where did everybody go ? Tom Bishop ?
I don't understand what makes you think that people will respond to you after you were an absolute cunt to them. For all the expertise you claim to have on how the Sun and the Earth interact, you could clearly improve your understanding of how humans interact with one another.
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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2015, 06:32:54 PM »
Hello ? Where did everybody go ? Tom Bishop ?
I don't understand what makes you think that people will respond to you after you were an absolute cunt to them. For all the expertise you claim to have on how the Sun and the Earth interact, you could clearly improve your understanding of how humans interact with one another.

Re:"The Sun Is A Spotlight":
We're just trying to get a few answers to clear up a few points, but don't seem to be getting anywhere. We're just interested in hearing the FE side of the questions and their basis for evidence. Some questions have been asked but so far no answers.

I don't claim to have any expertise or be an expert on the subject but I do know of many sources for information from the RE side. It is just getting information from the FE side that is the problem. There has been a lack of response to some of our questions. That's all,
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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2015, 10:12:10 PM »
Let's just go back to square one and ask one question at a time. Fair enough ?

# 1. If the sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward, how is the moon illuminated ?

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2015, 10:14:56 PM »
I told you how the sun works on post two. I will not explain it to you again.

"acts like" != "is"

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2015, 10:20:12 PM »
I told you how the sun works on post two. I will not explain it to you again.

"acts like" != "is"

Which is correct ? Yours or the wiki ? You say the sun shines in all directions. The flat earth wiki says it shines downward.

Something that shines in one direction is unidirectional and "acts like a spotlight."
Something that shines in all directions is omnidirectional and "acts like a floodlight."
It cannot be both at the same time. It must be either one or the other.

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2015, 11:52:53 PM »
The sun shines downwards on the earth. It certainly does not shine upwards on the earth. What's wrong with that statement?

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Re: The Sun Is A Spotlight
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2015, 11:59:21 PM »
The sun shines downwards on the earth. It certainly does not shine upwards on the earth. What's wrong with that statement?

By definition a spotlight shines in only one direction. The wiki says downward. It doesn't shine upwards or sidewards.

If it only shines downward on the earth how are the moon, the planets and their moons illuminated ?