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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Why can't we see across?
« Last post by evandevekey on June 27, 2017, 10:23:11 AM »
If the Flat Earth Theory is correct then shouldn't we be able to see across the sea, using a powerful telescope, the opposite land?

 For example, shouldn't I be able to see American shores from a UK beach?

(is this question ridiculous?)
you cannot see the opposite land simply because our eyes/ the telescopes are not powerfull enough to see all those miles (not a stupid question)
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: What is behind Antarctica?
« Last post by evandevekey on June 27, 2017, 10:16:39 AM »
Would you just fall of the edge? Or is there more land behind Antartica? Explain.
behind Antarctica is space but I don't know what would happen if you walked off
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republican Health Care Bill
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 27, 2017, 09:47:44 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/us/politics/senate-health-care-bill-republican.html?partner=msft_msn

Welp, that went as expected.

The white house is like "This will save us a ton of money by lowering enrollment in medicare and medicaid"
CBO: "It'll drop tons of people off health care completely due to costs."
WH: "That's what i just said."
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« Last post by Jura-Glenlivet on June 27, 2017, 08:20:25 AM »
More than that O circular one, I have no wish to be saved. Long before it became apparent that religion was, the timid and fearful’s reaction to the finality of death, or the narcissists rejection of their mind-numbing insignificance, I was appalled by the message I was being given.
It was starkly focused when I read the words to Amazing grace, specifically the last verse;

 When we’ve been there ten thousand years,
Bright shining as the sun,
We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise
Than when we’d first begun.

Having struggled (as a child) with the chilling realisation that dying meant extinction, forever, an eternity of non-being. Religion was a siren call, but this verse made me realise there are worse things than personal annihilation. Much rather Shakespeare’s;

The solemn temples, the great globe itself—
Yea, all which it inherit—shall dissolve,
And like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind.
We are such stuff
As dreams are made on, and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

What right thinking, self-aware, intelligent creature could submit to such a horror, time without end yodelling to the glory of such a bloated ego, one who created us for that explicit reason?
No! I was born for endless night, and gladly so
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Flat Earth General / Re: Might need to amend the TFES homepage.....
« Last post by Smokified on June 27, 2017, 05:44:11 AM »
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Flat Earth is an empirical truth. All inquiry must begin with empirical truths.

Flat Earth is not an empirical truth.  You have to observe it first in order for it to be that.  FES uses the argument that nobody has seen the earth in its entirety as a globe (which is flat out false), yet not one flat earth believer has ever seen a flat earth in its entirety, and therefore the idea of a flat earth is not any kind of truth.  It is a rejection of readily available information in order to support the idea of a conspiracy that has no motive to exist.

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The interview is mostly about how we are being brainwashed by the educational system to believe in things which are wrong and unproven. Someone with a doctorate in education is supremely qualified to speak about that sort of thing and cast doubt on supposed truths like the Round Earth model.

Which interview?  Your comments suggest a significant disconnect with reality and a lack of comprehension that there is a lot more that exists beyond your clearly, very obstructed view of the world.  You are simply making up what you think a doctorate in education entails.  But since you have never seen one, or received one yourself, by your logic, it doesn't even exist.

At some point you really just have being honest with yourself.
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Flat Earth General / Re: What convinced you that the Earth is flat?
« Last post by Smokified on June 27, 2017, 05:35:29 AM »
A transcendental experience with ayahuasca.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit".
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Flat Earth General / Re: Might need to amend the TFES homepage.....
« Last post by Tom Bishop on June 27, 2017, 05:35:16 AM »
So your entire theory relies on the support of people who just see what they see without any logical frame of reference?  And this is a theory you literally take time out of your life to support and justify?

 Flat Earth is an empirical truth. All inquiry must begin with empirical truths.

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Also, Shaq's credentials are publicly documented information.  Just because YOU don't know them, doesn't mean the information doesn't exist.  A simple Google search will do.  There is nothing about is education (which includes a doctorate in education) that qualifies him as an expert on astronomy.

The interview is mostly about how we are being brainwashed by the educational system to believe in things which are wrong and unproven. Someone with a doctorate in education is supremely qualified to speak about that sort of thing and cast doubt on supposed truths like the Round Earth model.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does my flat earth friend push so hard?
« Last post by Smokified on June 27, 2017, 05:34:44 AM »
I have watched boats disappear under the horizon on Lake Superior from the top of Lutsen Mountain with my own eyes.  Are you trying to say that the perception you gather from looking out your window somehow represents the totality of what is really there?

I am saying that the Round Earth Theory is something which must be proven by default, not assumed. The Sinking Ship effect is addressed and studied in Earth Not a Globe, and proven to be an illusion, but even assuming that the study is completely wrong, your observation only really suggests so far is that the earth is a hill, and my only advice to you is to continue your investigation.

You are operating under some kind of misconception that the idea of a round earth is just an assumption simply because you have not seen it in its entirety from looking out your window.

You tell me to look out my window and observe for myself, but then when I tell you I have observed for myself on a far greater scale, you come up with some bogus explanation as to why my observation wasn't valid.

The "sinking ship effect" explanation by "Earth is Not a Globe" is a complete misinterpretation of information.  I have thoroughly studied both reality, and the flat earth theory, and the part that I can't figure out is the mental condition that allows a person to put this much effort into trying to prove something that NOBODY has ever observed while trying to use the justification that the theory is proven by default specifically due to observation, when the alternate and logically accepted solution has been based on countless observations and even more numerous experiments that anyone can do for themselves.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Why does my flat earth friend push so hard?
« Last post by Tom Bishop on June 27, 2017, 05:21:52 AM »
I have watched boats disappear under the horizon on Lake Superior from the top of Lutsen Mountain with my own eyes.  Are you trying to say that the perception you gather from looking out your window somehow represents the totality of what is really there?

I am saying that the Round Earth Theory is something which must be proven by default, not assumed. The Sinking Ship effect is addressed and studied in Earth Not a Globe, and proven to be an illusion, but even assuming that the study is completely wrong, your observation only really suggests so far is that the earth is a hill, and my only advice to you is to continue your investigation.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Journey to the end
« Last post by Smokified on June 27, 2017, 05:19:50 AM »
Those people who believe the Ice Wall is guarded are lunatics!

I see.

So if Antarctica is an individual continent (which it is) and people can travel to it from any direction (N,S,E,W or any variation in between), why is it shown as a border around the "flat earth" in the FES "literature", and how does it now fit into the theory that the earth is flat and we are prevented from travelling outside of our confinement?