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As a side effect of the unchecked arrogance you suffer from, you seem to be unaware that your little group here is not the only FES group that exists. 

Ah, another display of your ignorance. You clearly have no understanding of the history of the Flat Earth Society. Contrary to your false assumptions, we are quite aware of the other FES groups, as many of us here came from another group years ago.

I would suggest you stick to discussing things you have some clue about. It will keep you from looking so foolish all the time.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: All planets are circular.
« on: Today at 03:26:06 AM »
They won't give you an answer to this (or any kind of straight one)

I would suggest you read the wiki and FAQ. It actually isn't that hard.

However, seeing as this is FE Q&A, I will ask to refrain from making low-content posts that don't contribute anything. Consider this a warning. Please read the rules if you plan to continue posting. Thanks!

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravity (2.0)
« on: Today at 03:20:56 AM »
Is anyone going to respond

Hi there, I would suggest you stop making double and triple posts. If people want to reply, they will. Spamming the FE fora is considered low-content posting and is against the rules. I would also suggest you take a look at the wiki and FAQ, as it is clear you are lacking in the fundamentals of FET. It will answer some of your questions, whether or not you like the answer is another story. You will find that if you ask the very basics of FE, members here will simply direct you to the wiki as they have answered those questions hundreds of times.

If you have a specific question, feel free to ask it. In the mean time, I would suggest reviewing the Equivalence Principle, acceleration using Special Relativity, as well as coordinate acceleration vs. proper acceleration.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Density and the replacement of gravity.
« on: Today at 03:13:26 AM »
Can you show 2 opposing arguments I am trying to equivilate?  Or did you just make that up to try and look smart in front of all of your friends?
Do you really not understand what a false equivalence is? Are you just trolling at this point? I guess I will bite for at least one more post. You tried to make an equivalence between Tom stating that no one knows the mechanism that makes gravity function with a claim that he doesn't know how his electronics function. Those are not equivalent, as much as you might hope them to be.

Whether or not they can explain exactly how gravity works
I suppose it is a good thing no one is asking anyone to explain "exactly" how gravity works. I would suggest you go back and read the thread again to clear up your obvious misunderstanding.

How old my account is is completely irrelevant. 
False.

You dismissing the information I have provided
Also false. Have you actually read the thread?

which is the MO for all FE believers,
Citation needed...

You just all seem to run away as soon as facts start flying around. 
Cool, more baseless claims. Feel free to provide evidence, unless you don't mind coming off as being ignorant. Hasn't seemed to stop you so far.

You can observe the evidence of this yourself if you simply look at the forums and at which point you and your tin-foil hat club seem to always disappear from the conversation.
I am starting to wonder if you have actually read any threads at all.

Flat earth has nothing to do with my "dislike".  It is the completely arrogant, intentional bullshit that is the problem.
What is arrogant?

Anyone who challenges you is being irrational.
Ah, now you are moving on to strawmen. Nice.

Anyone who presents facts is brainwashed.  Anyone who shows a picture has faulty equipment.
Feel free to keep making things up. Whatever makes you feel better.

When presented with a situation you have no real answer for, you either disappear, or redirect the conversation into something about how the person isn't worthy of having the conversation
Citation needed...

or you are not responding because it is irrational.  In reality you are just running away because you are too weak to admit, even to yourself, that you are wrong.
Running away from what? Do you realize how entitled you sound. And yet, you literally have made no arguments. You cannot provide evidence, you just make claims.

It is clear you are more about taking a stand and just trying to brush the opposition of reality under the rug than you are about trying to be objective and coming to a logical observable conclusion.  You are in no position to claim that anyone hasn't provided any evidence of anything.  Not one thing you have said on this site that I have seen qualifies as evidence. 
I can see how you might come to that conclusion given that you clearly haven't read the posts or done any research. Keep attacking that strawman, though. I won't stop you. You seem to have a victim complex, you really should work on that.

You are a childish, arrogant hypocrite, and the sooner you learn to accept that and grow up, the better off you will be.
This is what projection looks like, children. Take note, as it is very unhealthy.


If you decide you ever want to have an actual conversation, the forum will be here. If all you plan to do is complain, then I would suggest limiting your posts to the Angry Ranting forum. It was designed just for angsty round earthers such as yourself. I wish you the best, friend!  :)

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravity...
« on: June 27, 2017, 07:36:40 PM »
Just curious, are you a flat farther or a round farther

Yes. I am not sure how that is relevant to the discussion, however.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravity...
« on: June 27, 2017, 07:28:15 PM »
If the earth were flat and was traveling upward at a constant velocity of 9.8 meters per second, then the acceleration due to gravity would be 9.8 meters per second squared.

In FET, it is accelerating at ~9.8m/s2. It is not moving at a constant velocity.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Density and the replacement of gravity.
« on: June 27, 2017, 07:20:40 PM »
We either know the mechanism for gravity or we do not. We currently do not know the mechanism for gravity. We do not know how it works.

Your response is of the logical fallacy we call circular reasoning.

You are using the internet right now on a computer (or a phone, which is an even better example), and yet you can't explain at all how it works.  Yet it does.  Are you trying to tell me the electronic device you are using is a scam?  It doesn't exist?  How am I, a person you have never physically observed before, and you, a person I have never physically observed before, able to have a conversation in which our responses are explained by cause and effect?

Not knowing how something works is not a valid argument that it doesn't exist.  As I said before, you can observe the affects yourself all you want.  You use the "look out the window and observe" "logic" repeatedly, yet you refuse to observe anything you feel questions your narrative to simply use the excuse that since you have not observed it, any mention of it is false.

And your response is of the logical fallacy we call false equivalence.

Whether or not he can explain what makes his electronic device function is irrelevant. It was built by people who obviously understand it, and can tell you exactly how it functions. This is simply not the case for gravity.  Do you understand the distinction? If you don't, then just ask for help and we can try to point you in the right direction. Unless you are suggesting the "graviton" has been discovered. If so, then please provide evidence and I will retract my claim.

You have an account that is a few days old. So far you assert that you are just stating facts. Yet, you have not made an argument nor provided any evidence for anything. You sure seem to like firing off claims, though, and generally acting condescending and unpleasant. Yes, we get it, you don't like Flat Earth anything. You have provided nothing original and aren't even capable of having a rational discussion. You are just like the hundred, if not thousands of users we have seen pass through over the years.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Republican Health Care Bill
« on: June 22, 2017, 03:52:00 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2017/06/22/533947844/senate-republicans-reveal-long-awaited-affordable-care-act-repeal-bill

The senate has gotten the bill out in public.  Finally.

Now to read it, digest it, and then vote on it in about a week.

But I thought health care bills were supposed to be passed first, and then we could find out what is in them.

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Suggestions & Concerns / MOVED: Hey
« on: June 22, 2017, 03:49:04 PM »

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Technology & Information / Re: I Bought a Sony Xperia X
« on: June 21, 2017, 04:08:41 AM »
So I am using my Xperia X as my daily driver now. Have been for about a week. After last year's saga of trying both an HTC 10 and an iPhone 7, I ended up back on my iPhone 6. My iPhone 6's Lightning port began to fail over the last couple months to where I had to fiddle with the adapter to get it to a spot to where it would charge (and would stop charging if moved even slightly). It also can no longer make a data connection, so I can't transfer pictures or do local backups.

I've got Android 7.1.2 from Sony's Concept program running nicely (with the UK version so the fingerprint scanner works properly). However, when I initially unlocked my phone back when I got it, I was unaware about the DRM key situation I described in the previous post. Long story short is that the camera on my Xperia is borked. There is a workaround which involves going back to a custom ROM, which I will eventually do so I can regain full functionality.

Unfortunately, the Concept program for the Xperia X has now ended, so 7.1.2 will be the last release this phone gets. Hopefully SailfishOS is released soon, so I can actually use this phone the way I envisioned when I bought it. It was slated for late Q2, so there is still some time to meet that deadline, although I won't be surprised if it is delayed.
curious question but I had the same problem.

Have you tried clearing out dust and lint?
I used a sewing needle on my HTC's usb and 3.5mm jack ports and now they both work like a charm.

Yes, multiple times. Tried different cables as well. The cable no longer seats securely in the Lightning port, so there isn't much to be done. I could get it to make proper contact with the charging pins, but not for the data pins. It is fine, I was looking for a reason to force myself off of the iPhone anyway. Have been for over six months now.

So I ended up fixing my iPhone 6. SU cracked her screen, and we were looking at new phones but she decided she liked her iPhone. I decided to just fix it so I ordered a new full display assembly for her phone and the lightning port/headphone assembly for mine since it was only $20 on iFixit. SU's screen only took 15 min, but it took me over an hour to finish mine. But the end result is a fully functioning iPhone 6. I think I am going to order a couple spare batteries and we will have some like-new phones.

Still going to rock my Xperia X for now. Sucks that it won't get much for updates going forward, but I will just root it soon and install a custom ROM. Hopefully SailfishOS is released for it soon.

Having said all that, I think I will buy a new flagship once the next iPhone is released as well as the next Pixel. I am leaning towards one of the Snapdragon 835 phones. The LG G6, HTC U11, and the OnePlus 5 all look pretty nice.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: June 20, 2017, 03:40:52 PM »
Without religion, we'd find some other equally arbitrary means of distinguishing 'Us' from 'Them.'

There was a really interesting series of The Island with Bear Grylls* where two groups of 'survivors' were marooned on two parts of a tropical island, a group made up of 18-30 year olds and another made up of over 30s. On the third or fourth day, the two groups who were both struggling to find food and water met one another. You might have expected them to merge the groups, better sub-divide the tasks, and work together. Instead, they had formed very distinct 'In' and 'Out' groups and were at each others' throats before long.

I know that this is just trash reality TV - probably at least partly scripted and carefully edited to exacerbate minor differences, not to mention favouring incompatible people in the first place - but even if entirely fictional, it shows how quickly arbitrary lines in the sand are drawn.

This is a very real thing called realistic conflict theory. The old Robbers cave study did something similar with 11 and 12 year old boys.

It is also explored in the documentary series Lost.

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Flat Earth Debate / MOVED: 7/24 open flat earth channel
« on: June 20, 2017, 03:23:17 PM »

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Flat Earth General / Re: Questions to all flat earthers
« on: June 20, 2017, 03:08:20 PM »
I merged the two identical threads you made.

If the Earth is flat, how can people travel all the way around the Earth in one direction and return to the same place?

You don't know how circumnavigation works, do you? It isn't surprising given that your other questions show that you haven't done any research whatsoever.

Oh well. Best wishes, and welcome.

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Flat Earth General / MOVED: Flat Earth UHD 4k Video
« on: June 18, 2017, 06:04:17 AM »

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Gravity...
« on: June 16, 2017, 04:28:34 AM »
You and your team friends are false flag.

You need to stop with the personal attacks and low-content posting in the upper fora. This is the only warning you will get. The next one is a month-long ban.

The final step after that is a permanent ban. If you can't follow the rules, then don't post.

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