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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 22, 2017, 01:16:18 PM »
Better than Heiwa... Or Tom for that matter.

Flat Earth General / Re: How orbits work.
« on: March 22, 2017, 01:15:32 PM »
Other than that it works fine all the way down to the subatomic scale as everyone knows.

Does it?  I was under the impression that on very small scales relativity breaks down.  Electrons don't orbit around a nucleus so much as zip and zap here and there.

I misspoke.  I meant it breaks down at the subatomic scale.

I've always found the fact that gravity is considered so obvious a fundamental force yet its functioning breaks down both at very small and very large scales suspicious.  But perhaps it can be easily explained by saying that a Grand Creator put it here so it could be easily observed but only at scales we can view with our own eyes, such that it wasn't until we tried to really examine things closely that we saw that it didn't quite work right.  Too big or too small and things get dark or random.  But here in Mama Bear's bed things are "just right" so that gravity is a perfect explanation for everything all the time.

Who said gravity is a perfect explanation for everything?  What a weird position.

  I suppose if you are willing to believe in God any ridiculous thing can make sense, but I feel like a lot of people who argue in favor of gravity as a real thing don't even believe in God which is just bewildering.  How can you believe that you are magically attached to a giant whizzing ball without also believing in Divine Providence having stuck you there?

Because of evidence.

FET requires no God because it requires no magic.

Yes, well if I make up properties of a theory to make it sound ridiculous it will also sound ridiculous.

That is why it is the superior theory.

And it is a terrible theory because it can't offer up a cogent explanation for what we observe.  If I were to be as dishonest as you, I would just use your terrible "Magic" argument on various components that have been offered up: like UA.  It is even less descriptive than gravity as a theory.  Gravity has trouble describing the very very big and the very very small.  UA has trouble describing anything outside a completely homogeneous space, which, as we know, does not exist.

Flat Earth General / Re: How orbits work.
« on: March 21, 2017, 11:52:25 PM »
We/they don't know everything, I would be deeply suspicious of anyone saying they did, but if you are going to oppose everything scientist say, you have to come up with something that at least works and you really can't take their work (that acknowledges a problem) and hold it up as proof they are wrong.

How does gravity "at least work" if it is clearly not working in entire galaxies?

It is neither clearly working not clearly not working on the galactic scale. The state of the science is to collect enough information to determine what it is they don't know. Other than that it works fine all the way down to the subatomic scale as everyone knows.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« on: March 21, 2017, 06:51:46 PM »
I don't think I've ever felt so satisfied with a game before. I don't feel like I want to convince anyone it's amazing, I don't feel like debating with anyone who thinks it isn't, I just feel happy that I played it and that I get to experience such a wonder.

I does currently have a 97% rating on metacritic too.  I dont really play Zelda games, but this sounds phenomenal.

Flat Earth General / Re: How orbits work.
« on: March 21, 2017, 06:41:12 PM »
So... we are more than willing to substitute "something, something, dark matter" into any situation we can't explain?

No.  Why would you think that?

Yet Flat Earth Theory is supposed to have every single t crossed and every single i dotted and be some sort of universal theory of everything.

Not everything, but maybe have something figured out before you claim its the truth?

When considering the shape of the earth, wouldn't one think that an authority that deals with physical sciences would be more credible than someone who deals with educational sciences?

You tried to discredit Shaq's academic credentials and that failed.

I would wager Shaq has more credit hours in all science classes than you.

I would wager all those scientists that say agree the Earth is round have more credit hours in science than Shaq.  YOU LOSE!!!!

P.S. This is my new favorite thread.

Who am I going to believe, a doctor of education; or you guys, who are not doctors of education?

You don't believe PhDs in physics about physics, but when someone who received a doctorate in a field not directly related to geodetics makes a pronouncement that agrees with you, and does so in a way that demonstrates no understanding of geometry, you believe it.  Sounds like the one to trust least in this whole affair is you... as usual...

Flat Earth Information Repository / Re: Flat Earth and the Qur'an
« on: March 18, 2017, 09:01:22 PM »
The ancients actually spent lifetimes studying and considering the earth's shape from a fresh start, unlike Astronomers today who merely point to Aristotile's Three Proofs when arguing that the earth is round.

I think they point to the plethora of photographic, video and eyewitness evidence of the Earth being round; at least that is what I would do.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 16, 2017, 10:03:03 PM »
Don't you have Norwegian politics to follow or something?

*new rule for me* Ignore anyone who isn't a US Citizen residing in America when it comes to talking about American Politics

How dare someone care about what the biggest geo-political force in the world is up to!  Now, can you please go back to pretending that Trump is nevah wrong?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 15, 2017, 11:31:40 PM »
What exactly is my narrative again?

Is it as far fetched as a Kremlin plot to take over US politics?

You were demanding investigations about PizzaGate on similar amounts of evidence but this doesn't move your needle at all. You are a hopeless fanboy.

Yeah, it's "There is no evidence that Trump's campaign has gotten help from Russia and every agency in the government is lying."
Why are US intelligence agencies more trustworthy than the Russian government?

'Cuz their on Americas side, man.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: March 15, 2017, 03:59:03 PM »
Yeah, I should have mentioned that the version I saw was the longest cut of the movie. I understand and appreciate that editing and cutting is an important part of the filmmaking process, but even the fact that they spent the time and money animating and shooting those scenes is baffling. It's the most obvious "cut this" material imaginable.

It was cut in the original release, which I thought was a good movie.  They add that stuff in to generate extra revenue from fanboys.  Generally extended cuts are worse than original cuts.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Citizen
« on: March 11, 2017, 04:32:32 PM »
Eve Online seems to have mass combat solved although I can't imagine a battle happening at 1/10th speed is any fun to be in.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 10, 2017, 05:42:30 PM »
Weird that you would introduce the constitutional protection to the conversation then.  If you weren't misinterpreting, what was your actual point?

Your analysis of the whole Russia "story" [sic] is totally illogical. Just because one has the capacity to do something doesn't mean they have. Your theory could be put forward as a competing hypothesis and the evidence can be considered as such. But there is no way the story should be "DOA" based on this.

In all of our talk of being open-minded or whatever, you only dig got heels in when Trump is criticized. I have applauded Trump for what I think he should be applauded for, and criticized the parts that suck. I wish you could do the same.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 10, 2017, 05:21:03 PM »
Few points of order. I never once said what Trump was doing was illegal, or unconstitutional, that was your own (mis)interpretation. Second, it seems like you don't really understand what libel entails: it must be an eminent falsehood that has caused damage to Trump. CNN never said what they were reporting was true, and it hasn't appeared to have cost him anything. Finally a quick perusal of Breitbart's headlines displays the kind of editorializing that most detest in CNN. Sorry you can't see that. Now please go back to believing that Trump is the most ethical, hard-working and least corrupt politician we have ever had.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 10, 2017, 03:01:37 PM »
My thing is this, since our president already called them out many times, and banned them from the press conferences, why would they have any reason to play nice? To think, if they were fair or balanced before that (they weren't) how much worse they are after all that.

Not worse than Breitbart. No shocker, Breitbart are becoming the favored outlet of Trump. It is totally unethical. Its also terrible that Trump is limiting press to only the outlets whose bias agrees with his, don't you think?

Trumps relationship with the press is just a gong show of conflict of interest, cronyism and propaganda, but please keep bringing up the election choice that was made months ago instead of criticizing that.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 09, 2017, 12:14:20 PM »
i don't know any humans who get their news from just one agency, let alone exclusively from cnn.
You're lucky, then. Most people I know (on both sides of the spectrum) tend to get their news from one agency. Obviously it won't be completely exclusive, but there often is an overwhelming trend.

Same here, and most people I know get a significant portion of their news from social media, mostly in headline form.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 08, 2017, 11:11:21 PM »
What the goose said.  You have no reason to trust Trump, in fact have been given reason after reason after reason not to trust Trump, but your faith in him is secure.  Dave is probably right about you and at this point I would imagine a great deal of his other supporters (mostly the ones who aren't racist pieces of shit and actually voted for him because of his economic policies or whatnot); it's willful ignorance likely caused by a strong desire not to be proven wrong.

You sidestep, sidestep, sidestep when presented with something you don't want to face.  Again, I'd think you were trolling if you weren't doing the same thing most of his other followers are doing (indeed, what Trump himself has been doing since he took office).  It's just sad that 42% of the country is just as unwilling to face fact (actual fact, as opposed to the alternative variety the Trump camp loves) as you are.  And thanks to your blind obedience we have a madman dictating policy in the highest office in this country, and there's nothing that can be done about it because the sackless, ethics-challenged Republicans in Congress are fine looking the other way because so many people like you think he's doing a swell job and take everything he says at face value.

It literally (I mean literally) makes me sick.

What's the alternative? Was I supposed to accept the march towards globalism and socialism just because everyone thinks Trump is a bad person? I don't believe all the hype because I've watched the character assassination unfold in real time over the past year.

The alternative is to be just as vocal about the multitude of terrible things Trump has done in his first 40 days as president as you have been about the multitude of shitty things HRC did.

Please show me what I have sidestepped, the talking points of the lot of you is no better than those given to you by the AP and Reuters. So scarily close to the "fake news is stuff that trump doesn't like" trope. CNN is fake news. If you're afraid to challenge your own beliefs than please don't click this link to see all the ways that it is.

It is insanely easy to see that most of the media establishment has it out for him. It is insanely easy to see that hypocrisy is the currency of the left. If it wasn't for double standards you would have none at all. Demand evidence for everything Trump says but still wholeheartedly believe that Trump personally ordered Putin to phish John Podesta's emails without a single shred of proof. I've sat here and watched violent protest after violent protest from the supposedly peaceful and tolerant Left. Anti-trump protestors burning free speech signs, macing old men, even busting out the windows of companies that bend over backwards for them. It is terrorism and bigotry, there is no other way to accurately describe what these people are doing.

The actual journalists on Fox News are also out to get Trump and on the same things I think are reasonable to go after him for: wasting time Shitposting on Twitter; complaining about HRC's private email server, then using one; talking about National Security as a crowd of onlookers crowd his sweet patio table at his sweet golf club; wracking up more in travel in 40 days than Obama did in in almost a year; making serious allegations on a wide range of topics without a shred of evidence (coinciding with Twitter shitposting), etc...

I don't consider myself a republican or a democrat, or a conservative or a liberal, I just like to believe that common sense still has a place in Government. You can't get everything you want with our rigid two party system, but to me, preservation of our constitutional rights is pretty high on my list. Gorsuch is better than whatever globalist, regressive Justice that the Clinton Cabal would ever appoint. I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court vacancy was a major factor for millions of people when deciding who to vote for.

His candidate was surprisingly centrist and everyone has been onside with that.

That being said, I have yet to see any actual evidence or proof of Trump being the evil Fascist people say he is.

He isn't. Pence probably is. After all, he literally tried to start an Indiana public news outlet whose express purpose was to propagandize against the free press. The locking out of media from press junkets is pretty petty, and if it becomes habit, then that is a black mark against him, however you feel about CNN, et al.

All his actions indicate a smaller government, there has been no assault on free speech, he hasn't assumed control of the press. He is doing a really terrible job at dictatoring.

He is trying to limit the press contact to the people he approves of (see agree with him) That is definitely strongly on the fascist spectrum but that alone does not make him #literallyhitler. He is what I thought he'd be, a narcissistic populist who has zero idea about foreign policy and doesn't appear to care to learn.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 07, 2017, 06:52:44 PM »
The FBI does not answer to the whitehouse.  If they have legitimate law enforcement concerns they can pursue them with or without POTUS's approval.  I doubt they even need the AG's approval to do what they did, just a courtesy call informing them of their actions.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 06, 2017, 01:41:39 PM »
Whatever the reason, his campaign-style showmanship has little to do with his policies or lack thereof.

Yeah, it probably has to do with his dad not loving him enough or some shit.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing (the Video Game Version)
« on: March 05, 2017, 09:25:26 PM »
One of the best RPGs, Neverwinter Nights Diamond Edition, is currently free for a limited time on GOG.
Go get it.

Edit: The deal has expired.

Do you still play? I'm on a still running server. Awesome game.

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