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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General
« on: July 23, 2017, 01:07:27 PM »
They are re-shooting a bunch, so perhaps a bunch of this stuff will be moot by the time the finished project came out.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 23, 2017, 12:32:44 AM »
yeah, I'm not getting much "peace" outta these "non-religion" folks ......
I went over there and read that crap .. < no wonder these FErs  are still in the freakn closet
they can't even explain this BS in their own words ....... tilt !!

Said the Christian to the Jew.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 22, 2017, 08:40:03 PM »
He also could have been throwing hypothetical numbers out.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 22, 2017, 06:08:23 PM »
FE explanations are the worst explanations.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 22, 2017, 12:18:12 PM »
Maybe he means after sunset?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 20, 2017, 01:17:38 PM »
I tried to find a way to rationalize his comment so that it made sense, but I will have to leave that to Tom.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 17, 2017, 11:37:59 AM »
Before people start fighting me over the subject,

Famous last words before said alt disappears into the Night-Lover261. So have we establised yet that mankind doesn't need Religion to kill each other.
If so, where do we get our killer instincts from? Did we learn them or inherit them? Why are we greedy and lustful? Is it for pleasure or is it a survival instinct? Why do I have to go to a job that I hate, to make money to buy stuff that doesn't bring any fulfilment? No seriously, I've gotta get out of the Gold Coast, I hate it here, it just sucks  :(

word to the Child of God (Christian) ..... > these things I (Jesus) have spoken to you .. so that in me you may have peace ..
In the world you have tribulation .. but take courage . . .  I have overcome the world ...... John 16:33

word to the Child of Satan (atheist / unsaved) ..... life sucks and then you die

I wouldn't expect a person of the book to find their own words to express their views.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: July 16, 2017, 03:43:17 PM »
Number 19 at SW19!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 15, 2017, 07:11:20 PM »
This is why a candidate can be elected purely on a "the system is broken" platform, and win despite many other failings.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: July 12, 2017, 05:53:18 PM »
Nadal loses in the 4th Rd
Djokovic and Murray out in the QFs
Federer only has to beat Berdych and either Cilic or Querrey to claim his record 8th Wimbledon and 19th Grand Slam overall.

Berdych broke Federer's streak of consecutive Grand Slam semi-finals, and when he is hitting his flat ball off wings with accuracy, he can overpower anyone.

Cilic is looking like the same player who beat Federer in the US Open semis in 2014, en route to his only Grand Slam title.

EDIT: Querrey doesn't have much to threaten Cilic other than a big serve and it took 5 sets for him to beat a hobbled Andy Murray. I can't see him making the final but it will be a great ride if he does.

It's Federer's title to lose, but it should be an interesting night conclusion to the Fortnight.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 12, 2017, 01:30:54 PM »
I would like to, but I can't.

I would recommend listening to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History episode on the outbreak of WW I. He does an interesting detour in to the growth of the standing army and how that contributed to ever escalating casualties in the 20th century.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 12, 2017, 12:53:15 PM »
Kushner was at the meeting with the lawyer and DTJr.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 12, 2017, 12:41:50 PM »
@zara-Just because you say these wars were not started because of religion doesn't mean it is so. You might be right, but where's the evidence?

I think the biggest issue that goes unsaid is that people do violence for every reason, in fact every reason they can hold in their mind can be twisted to violence.

The Stalin and Mao arguments are canards because their violence was not motivated by atheism, or at least that is a conclusion I have never seen evidence for, and I have looked for it. Nazi Germany was certainly not secular.

There are very peaceful secular societies like Scandanavia and Canada. There are regimes that have done violence to eliminate religion; not Russia, China or Germany but Albania certainly has.

It seems to me that the horrors of war in the 20th century was on such a scale because of technology moreso than ideology.

There are religiously motivated crimes and violence too liiiiiike Jihad. Like Christians bombing abortion clinics. A giant portion of Zionists will tell you that the conflict between Palestine and Israel is religious. The tension is Kashmir is between Muslims and Hindus. The troubles in Ireland centered on the tribalism resulting from Protestantism and Catholicism.

Making someone in to an outsider is a better way to justify violence than ideology. Although any ideology can carry the message that outsiders are evil quite effectively.

I posted this on my phone, so sorry if it is unfocused and rambling.

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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Why?
« on: July 08, 2017, 05:44:53 PM »
Come on, our explanations for those things are easily found in the literature and Wiki.

And they do not withstand much scrutiny either.

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- During lunar eclipses (which occur2-5 times a year visible from all over the hemisphere) the Earth shadow cast on Moon is round. What shape casts round shadow in all angles? Right - a sphere

This is an ancient greek proof which assumes that the sphere is the earth rather than any other celestial body which orbits the sun.[/quote]

Yes, one of the weaker proofs the Earth is spherical

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Look up the chapter "Perspective at Sea" in Earth Not a Globe by Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

It is a terrible explanation that has been refuted multiple times.

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- Seismic waves create P-wave shadow zones during earthquakes which are symmetric and perfectly fits spherical earth, but not  any other shape

http://www.cyberphysics.co.uk/graphics/diagrams/Earth/pand%20s%20shadow.png


As we see in your diagram, under the Round Earth model the seismic waves need to mysteriously curve as they travel through the earth to make any sense. The assumption that they are making straight line reflections in a plane is a more plausible explanation.[/quote]

Perhaps the diagram is not 100% accurate of the vectors these waves take?  Or perhaps, and this is a bit of a longshot, you don't know enough about seismology?

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- Stars moving. How could you explain different directions of stars spinning in northern and southern hemispheres?

There are two magnetic and celestial poles in the most modern Flat Earth model. See The Sea Earth Globe and its Monstrous Hypothetical Motions in our literature repository.[/quote]

Which do not explain the movement of stars to the level of detail that a globe Earth does.

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- Moon in southern hemisphere is upside-down. How can it be on a flat earth?

This is explained in the Wiki. In FET this is explained by the different observers standing on either side of the moon. On one side it is right-side up, and on the other side it is upside down.

Where are the pictures of the moon inverting along the other axes then? 


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All planets are spherical and somehow Earth is magically flat? WTF?

The earth is not a planet. The earth is a plane which bisects the universe and, therefore, fundamentally different.

Another bad RE argument.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 07, 2017, 03:22:31 AM »

I'm still confused. You're saying these forces act with intent, yet are not intelligent? Can you explain how that works exactly?

No that is not what I am saying.

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Actually the word "random" implies lack of intent. Which means that something that isn't random does have intent behind it. How does that work without intelligence being involved?

The word random does not imply intent, it implies a lack of predictability, at least in the context I am using it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 06, 2017, 08:18:39 PM »
Sorry I didn't see Saddam's image.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 06, 2017, 07:24:30 PM »
I'm sorry, in what sense can something be directed without something directing it? ???

The evolutionary process has forces directing it.  What gave you the impression I thought otherwise?

All I admitted was that evolution is neither random nor undirected.  You shouldn't put words in people's mouths.
You have misunderstood evolution.  It is neither random nor undirected

your exact quote

Yeah, exactly.  I never mentioned intelligence being involved, yet you pounced on me as if I had.  Maybe you are having trouble understanding me?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 06, 2017, 07:17:17 PM »
One of HanAssHole's reddit posts mentioned that he was a teenager in the 1990s.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 06, 2017, 03:36:22 PM »

evolution.  It is neither random nor undirected < so you admit there is intelligence involved ?

Why would you think that?  All I admitted was that evolution is neither random nor undirected.  You shouldn't put words in people's mouths. 

Like any reasonable person, I do not claim to know for sure if there is a higher power at work in the universe.  I can tell you a couple of things about the idea though: it is not necessary for evolution, it is not a testable scientific theory. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« on: July 06, 2017, 02:22:34 PM »
DNA is just matter

... follow the science Gost ..
apply the intelligence to whomsoever you will ... sorry, but mindless undirected random chance need not apply



900-878

You have misunderstood evolution.  It is neither random nor undirected.

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