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you seem to be unaware that your little group here is not the only FES group that exists.
Yeah, I guess having been a member of the other FES for 7 years, I might be a bit confused about the idea that they exist. Have you considered the radical possibility that you're the arrogant one here?

I would imagine another side effect of this arrogance is also that you feel you are the only one that matters.  Not far off?
Fairly far off. It just so happens that I'm acutely aware of how other FE organisations responded to Shaq's announcement, and it just so happens that for the most part it was very similar to our response.

I'm sure you can find a single group that made a big deal out of it, but if you're going to unduly focus on tiny unrepresentative minorities, you're not gonna be taken particularly seriously.

I am not making arguments such as "I drove to a place and it kind of looked flat to me" and "look out your window and see for yourself" to try and debunk facts, personal accounts, pictures, videos...etc.  This is what invalidates his position, and yours.
Mine? I doubt you can recount much of my position. Just a hunch.

Posting Shaq's drivel on your homepage was an obvious attempt to try and validate and make popular your position of a flat earth.
I posted Shaq's announcement on the homepage. I reckon I know better what I did and did not mean to achieve by it. I also successfully achieved it. You can flounder all you want about what you think is "obvious" or "embarrassing", but it's unlikely to affect how things actually are.

No, you haven't.

Seeing a level plane is not the same thing as observing the earth as a flat disc.
It's a great thing that I never claimed otherwise. Why are you bringing this up?

I have personally observed evidence of a globular earth, yet in order to maintain your position, you have to claim my observations are invalid, while also tying to claim your observations are valid.
Not at all. That's not what we're doing.

Again, your little narcissistic, closed off corner of the world does not represent the entirety of the "society".
If you come to the Flat Earth Society's website and talk about the Flat Earth Society, it is generally accepted that you're talking about the FES you're currently talking to. This should not be a controversial observation, but here you go. So:
  • Be more specific. If you mean the other FES, say "the other FES". If for some bizarre reason you're lumping independent groups together, say something like "multiple FE groups".
  • Do not expect us to take responsibility for the actions of others. If you don't like how others are behaving, take it up with them. We can't help you with that. In return, we will not ask you to explain the stupid things some other Round Earthers may have said here in the past.

If a globular earth is a scam, then by default nobody could have observed it.
A tenuous claim, at best. You'll have to be more specific before it can be assigned a truth value.

If you are saying that people have observed a globular earth, then the earth is in fact, NOT flat, as you are trying to suggest it is...based on "observation".  You can't have it both ways.
Actually, there are plenty of situations in which observations can be misinterpreted or misunderstood. Again, this should not be controversial and is perfectly understood in mainstream science.

Flat Earth General / Re: Journey to the end
« on: Today at 08:04:16 AM »
Also, why are there even different flat earth organizations?
Why are there even multiple women's health charities? Why are there even multiple educational charities? Why do things even exist?!

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Flat Earthery is plane-ly false
« on: Today at 07:47:49 AM »
Why don't they fall?
Because once they've escaped the Earth's cover, they are being affected by Universal Acceleration.

Flat Earth General / Re: Might need to amend the TFES homepage.....
« on: June 27, 2017, 11:52:07 AM »
Also, why was the FES making such a big deal out of what some guy said?
Are we? We posted a short article about it 3 months ago, then a short discussion followed. That tends to happen when high-profile individuals make a big statement about FE, because suddenly you get a drove of newcomers asking us if we've heard about it yet (spoiler: the answer is usually "yes").

Where, exactly, is the "big deal"?

He clearly isn't qualified and has a complete lack of any kind of knowledge to make an argument on either side.
Neither are/do you, and yet here you are making arguments.

Flat Earth is not an empirical truth.  You have to observe it first in order for it to be that.
We have observed it. That's why it's an empirical truth.

FES uses the argument that nobody has seen the earth in its entirety as a globe
No, it doesn't. Please refrain from lying, it does terrible things to your credibility.

Flat Earth General / Re: Evidence of this supposed Ice Wall
« on: June 26, 2017, 02:53:53 PM »
All honest and objective observations of the earth indicate the earth is a globe.
If you're not interested in learning, we can't help you.

Flat Earth General / Re: Evidence of this supposed Ice Wall
« on: June 26, 2017, 02:38:57 PM »
Your entire assumption of a flat earth has not been observed.

Flat Earth Debate / Re: Photo that shows curvature of the earth
« on: June 25, 2017, 08:28:04 AM »
if a vessel is observed until it is just "hull down," a powerful telescope turned upon it will restore the hull to sight
Well, we know this part isn't true.
Actually, it's easily reproducible.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 24, 2017, 09:55:14 AM »
If you're going to post this image on every other page of this thread, could you at least scale it down?

Flat Earth General / Re: Evidence of this supposed Ice Wall
« on: June 23, 2017, 07:29:34 PM »
Tom, that image looks remarkably similar to any number of google images for 'ice shelf.' Specifically the Ross Ice Shelf. FAR too similar for it to be taken as gospel that this is the mythical 'ice wall.'
Could that be because they're two names for the same thing?

"That photo of a mobile phone looks remarkably like a cell phone. I ain't buying it!"

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 23, 2017, 07:28:05 PM »
The information I presented literally says it automatically deletes messages once read.
How does that prevent them from being archived?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 23, 2017, 05:15:07 PM »
So how have you demonstrated that they're deleting messages and not archiving them? Because you've just outlined that the act of removing the message is very preventable.

Flat Earth General / Re: Might need to amend the TFES homepage.....
« on: June 23, 2017, 04:19:09 PM »
Being no stranger to academia, and having survived the 2016 US Presidential election, I decided to do some digging on this claim.
It's a shame you didn't do even the most rudimentary of "digging" around the discussions which were already had about this subject here. Duplicate threads help nobody.

Shaq's non-retraction has been deliberately discredited, and has largely gone unaccepted by even the mainstream media.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 23, 2017, 04:15:55 PM »
No, but software that encrypts then deletes messages automatically does.
That's completely incorrect. Any client could trivially archive messages.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 23, 2017, 02:45:16 PM »
Right, but the use of an end-to-end encryption solution does not inherently prevent archival. It might be the case that these messages are currently not being archived appropriately, but we have yet to see whether or not that's the case.

This sounds like part of the recent assault on end-to-end encryption, in which a few seemingly tyrannical groups are trying to spread distrust around the subject of cybersecurity. It's a bit scary tbh

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 23, 2017, 02:41:06 PM »

Remember when Republicans (and Trump) were screeching about this very thing with Hillary's e-mail server?
Frankly, I don't. I remember the outrage over woefully insufficient security measures combined with attempts at obstruction of justice. Not good security measures potentially* getting in the way of transparency.

* - n.b. not necessarily

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Back
« on: June 19, 2017, 10:18:04 AM »
Ooh, Welsh terrorists. Get them into government, pronto!

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Back
« on: June 19, 2017, 09:51:51 AM »
A man has driven a van into Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London.
The BBC needs to get their shit together and start telling us the attackers' race.

Was it a brown man driving a van into brown men? If so, we need to make a strong political statement about dumb sand people killing each other. Also we should close all borders.
Was it a white man driving a van into brown men? Clearly, right-wing nutjobs are at it again and we should open all borders.

Flat Earth Information Repository / Re: Flat Earth and the Qur'an
« on: June 18, 2017, 08:33:44 PM »
So are you acknowledging that the earth can be a globe depending on what proofs use?
No. For that analogy to work, you'd have to redefine a globe to mean something else than what you currently mean.

That said, if you did accept that condition, then sure, the Earth could be a "globe".

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cicada 3301
« on: June 18, 2017, 10:55:32 AM »
It's a boring 4chan ARG. Valve does them better.

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