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Well, even on a round Earth, you're not really tracing a straight line when you go east, you're traveling in a circle.  So it all seems like kind of a moot point.

See, east and west trace circles around the north pole while north and south trace circles that go through the north pole.  So the cardinal directions are as follows: North is Hubwards, South is Rimwards, East is Turnwise, and West is Widdershins.
It's hardly a moot point from your position because the straight lines paths due east in the southern hemisphere in reality trend northward rather than southward.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Feeling the rotation of the moon?
« on: Today at 03:24:14 PM »
BTW, the centripetal acceleration cause by the rotation​ of the earth at the equator is only 0.0339 meter/second2. It would be less at greater latitudes. 

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The same thing happens on a spherical earth except at the equator.

Sorry but you fail basic geometry there.  If you are on a sphere and you circumscribe the sphere (which means traveling west-east or east-west on our planet) the top and bottom of the sphere (the poles) will always be perpendicular to the circumscribed route.  If you don't believe me grab a ball or a balloon, draw a circle around that object, and then draw lines to the pole of the object.
You won't go in a straight line though.  You will follow a curved path called a rhumb line. A great circle route is a straight path but the heading will constantly change.  It is quite possible to get from one location to another following a constant heading.  It is not the shortest route though because it will following a curved path.  The only place where a straight east or west path can be taken is at the equator.  Take a look at Google Earth for experimentation.  If you draw a straight path with a heading of 90° at 45 north latitude the line will trend south.  Google Earth uses great circle routes to draw the straight lines.

I have never heard how the flat earth explains being able to follow a straight great circle route heading east at the equator though.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Feeling the rotation of the moon?
« on: Today at 02:58:50 PM »
It has nothing to do with gravity and the atmosphere.  Take a look at the thresholds found in this study and compare the acceleration of a rotating earth or moon.
https://bmcearnosethroatdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1472-6815-5-5

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Flat Earth General / Re: Feeling the rotation of the moon?
« on: Today at 02:53:31 PM »
The ability to feel rotation has to do with inner ears threshold to perceive acceleration.  If the acceleration is below the ears threshold then no motion is detected.  The acceleration caused by the rotation of the earth is half of what studies have found the inner ear is able to detect. 

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The same thing happens on a spherical earth except at the equator.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 29, 2017, 04:47:01 PM »
Tom, is the sun at the center of dish/plane?

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Upcoming Solar Eclipse in USA
« on: April 29, 2017, 11:26:43 AM »
You're right, Tom.  Astronomers, on their own, would never find an object large enough to block the sun.  Now is your time to make a real contribution to science.   

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Upcoming Solar Eclipse in USA
« on: April 29, 2017, 01:25:42 AM »
Yea, 68 years of infrared astronomy and we just keep on missing it.

Who is looking for it?

No one, but is kind of odd that in all the infrared pictures taken of the sun, this object is still undiscovered.

If we could not see the stars or celestial bodies with the naked eye, and our only access to the heavens were through observatory telescopes, we would have never discovered the planets.
Um......Tom, we did find planets like Neptune that can't be seen with naked eye.  We have also discovered very distant orbiting objects like Pluto, asteroids, dwarf planets, and comets all with telescopes.  You can't those with naked eye yet we found them.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Upcoming Solar Eclipse in USA
« on: April 28, 2017, 08:02:34 PM »
Yea, 68 years of infrared astronomy and we just keep on missing it.

Who is looking for it?
Hey, Tom, now is your time to make a real scientific contribution. 

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Upcoming Solar Eclipse in USA
« on: April 28, 2017, 05:54:50 PM »
Yea, 68 years of infrared astronomy and we just keep on missing it.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Upcoming Solar Eclipse in USA
« on: April 28, 2017, 05:03:09 AM »
Tom, a sky survey isn't random.  They are methodically done over many years, with many observations of the entire visible sky, and at mutiple times through out the year.  That is how they detect the proper and paralax motion of celestial​ objects.  Sky surveys are incredibly rigorous.  An object with an angular diameter of .5° is absolutely massive.  Sky surveys are detecting movements smaller than .0003 degrees.  Every object get cataloged and measured for motion over many years.  An oject of .5° to go undetected by any form of imaging is rediculous.  We also monitor the sun and the surrounding area daily with multiple imaging scemes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proper_motion#/media/File%3A61_Cygni_Proper_Motion.gif

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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Upcoming Solar Eclipse in USA
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:39:09 AM »
If the "dark object" also causes the lunar eclipses, then why does it not block out the stars in the sky surrounding the moon as it moves into position in front of the moon?

Apparently, this object only orbits the sun, shrouded in the sun's light in order to remain invisble to laymen eyes.

Is funny that this object is still a secret since we have in our power infrared telescopes that are able to take termal images of the celestial bodies.

Infrared observatories are only able to capture a very small section of the sky at a time when a picture is taken. Infrared telescopes don't see a large part of the sky. They are dishes which look at tiny sections of the sky, or are large deeply recessed observatory sized optical telescopes. And observatory telescopes don't "zoom out". It's like looking at the sky with a drinking straw. They are unreliable to catch something if you do not know where and when it will be.

This infrared sky map, for instance, was taken by stitching thousands of squares of sky together over a long period of time.
Yea.  Do you really believe that multiple  observatories that operate for years and do entire  surveys just keep missing objects that are large enough to block out the sun and moon?   

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The only explanation in RE theory for different day lengths is an elliptical orbit of the Earth around the Sun. However, is this just an example of circle logic (no pun intended) or retrofitting an explanation to fit an observation?
The elliptical orbit is not the explanation for different day lengths.  Who has ever given that explanation?  Can you link to someone who actually gives  that as an explanation?

The explanation is a sphere which is tilted at 23.5°.   That tilt explains the seasons, the planetary ecliptic, the solar ecliptic, the change in length of days, the changes in the azimuth change of sunrise and sunset.  The elliptical orbit explains the subtle changes in angular diameter of the sun throughout the year, the reason why summer and winter are not equal in length, and why the solar analemma isn't symetric.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 25, 2017, 12:47:20 PM »
So what angle is the "dish" tilted at compared to the earth?

The tilt changes throughout the year, and I provided an illustration which shows what angles it tilts between. The apparent angles in the sky it moves between are listed in the left margin:




This "dish" is constantly tilting throughout the year, or rather wobbling, with the sun being a fixed location on that wobbling dish. This means that when the sun is low whatever is on the opposite side of the dish is high, and when the sun is high, whatever is on the opposite night side is low.
So the sun is changing it's distance from the surface of the earth as moves between the tropic of Capricorn​ and Cancer?  Is the sun at the center of the dish?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 25, 2017, 12:38:45 PM »
Does anyone have an idea of the difference in height between the sun's high and low periods?
47 degrees.

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Flat Earth General / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 25, 2017, 04:47:11 AM »
So what angle is the "dish" tilted at compared to the earth?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 25, 2017, 03:55:19 AM »
Tom, I fully understand the change in the solar ecliptic throughout the year.  I'm looking for an explanation of why then planetary ecliptic declines while the solar ecliptic inclines.

If one side of a dish is tilted downwards, the other side of the dish will be tilted upwards. If the sun is low, the planets seen at night will be high.
You just stated that the "dish" was tilted.  What is the dish you are are referring to in the above quote?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 25, 2017, 03:39:07 AM »
The gif you supplied is the apparent ecliptic of the sun.  What is the "tilt" of the planetary plane?

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Flat Earth General / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 25, 2017, 02:35:47 AM »
Tom, I fully understand the change in the solar ecliptic throughout the year.  I'm looking for an explanation of why then planetary ecliptic declines while the solar ecliptic inclines.

If one side of a dish is tilted downwards, the other side of the dish will be tilted upwards.
By what degree?

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