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The fact that people CAN be deceived does not mean they ARE being deceived about one specific topic.
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Shaq has observed far more of the plane than most anyone.Incorrect. Those of us (myself among them) who served in the Navy have observed more of the GLOBE than he. And by "observed" of course I mean "conducted observations with our own eyes, observations that had real world consequences for navigation of billions of dollars of naval vessel" not whatever the 360° angle nonsense was that Shaq talked about.
Certainly, anyone posting here.
Really, you have evidence there are currently thousands of people with the same credentials?Advanced degrees in education are available from hundreds of colleges. Each of which awards multiple degrees, in multiple years. To be a teacher requires more and more degrees and certifications all the time, so YES, there are certainly thousands with the same Ed.D credentials. Probably tens of thousands.
Sounds more like hyperbole to me.
Are you saying that a Doctor of Education doesn't know anything about education?Others have said exactly that. In many cases, the Ed.D isn’t worth the paper it is printed on:
Nothing shows how downright phony the game is than the Ed.D.s — the Doctors of Education. I have seen administrators who have had trouble writing clear letters home to parents and who murdered the English language in public go about brandishing their degrees and insisting on being called “Doctor.”
When Astronomers are not quoting NASA, they are quoting Aristotle.Citation needed.
How amateur radio amateur operators make the same measurements by bouncing radio signals off the moon in their "Moon Bounce" Operations...Admittedly not as precise as those of the astronomical observatories.But accurate enough to reject the "about three thousand miles away" figure. Lots of materials exist on the web to help amateur radio operators achieve the coveted EME (earth - moon - earth) transmission. Private folks have been doing it since the 50's
Is he, though? Is he undecided? That's easy to SAY, but on matters relevant to the shape of the earth I don't believe I have ever seen him question or challenge a FE post, nor have I seen him agree with an RE post. If I'm wrong about that, I would love to be reminded of when either of those happened.Lol. TTIOH, you are rapidly becoming my favorite flat earther. This is gold.He's not a flat earther, he's undecided. It's not easy being a creationist in that regard.
I noticed that you still won't say what specific beach you were on.
We don't haveFixed that for you.
private space vacations or space hotelsa map of the flat earth as of yet, despite constant promises since the 1960's1800's. They don't seem to be smart enough.
There are other small beaches in that area that point towards Santa Cruz.I think we all, Flat and Round, would like to know: Which of those "other small beaches" were you using?
I believe I used a reflecting telescope of about 500x. Everything was upside down.
What else would you like to know?
Nobody has attempted to answer "What is the flat earth model explanation?"
Yes, I would like to know the explanation as well.
I dunno about "most", but yes, some do believe that. That, however, is completely inconsequential to your suggestion that "it cannot be otherwise".Would you care to describe how "going to space" actually works on a flat earth? I know how it works (as much as any non rocket scientist can claim to know) on a round earth where gravity works the way they teach it in school, but cannot picture what it would look like in a UA (or something else?) situation.
I'm not suggesting they didn't go to space.That puts you quite at odds with most FE, who believe one cannot "go to space" above a flat earth.
I don't think so. Individual people could be wrong about what they see. Hundreds of people pretending they went to space, and thousands of people building and supporting the hardware they pretended to take to space? That's the very definition of a "conspiracy"It cannot be otherwise.Of course it can. For a quick example, they could simply be wrong about the conclusions of their observations.
I don't see that much difference in the ideas about conspiracy between the two societies. Both seem to say essentially this:This is not even remotely close to the views of most people here. I won't speak for them, and personally I don't subscribe to any conspiracy theory.QuoteP1) If personally unverifiable evidence contradicts an
obvious truth then the evidence is fabricated
P2) The Flat Earth is an obvious truth
P3) There is personally unverifiable evidence that
contradicts the FET
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C1) The unverifiable evidence that contradicts the FET
is fabricated evidence
P4) If there is large amounts of fabricated evidence then
there must be a conspiracy to fabricate it
P5) There is a large amount of fabricated evidence (see C1)
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C2) There must be a conspiracy to fabricate it.
They say the curvature can't be measure because the moon's tidal forces and gravity are constantly pulling and pushing on the Earth's surface distorting any measurements.Who says this? Who is "they" to whom you refer?
Here are my thoughts or theories on the Flat Earth.Here are my thoughts on your thoughts:
1. The 8 inches curvature squared for every Statute Mile either is incorrect or can’t be observed and therefore doesn’t exist.
2. Stars and galaxies staying in perfect alignment since the beginning of time with everything in constant motion at the speed of light and all while being unobservable.
3. Photos, videos, and data of our Sun, Moon, and Outer Space, in general being heavily edited, doctored, or just withheld.
4. The Secrecy about Antarctica useless frozen land mass. Yes, there our natural resources but the conditions are not feasible to be of any benefit.
I didn't get any answers, from what I could glean.Sure you did: the answer was "NO". I'll quote the relevant section:
The big objection to this idea is that I believe that there is little argument that looked at in the short term, ie day by day,
the sun certainly appears to rotate in a circular path with (on the Antarctica Ice Wall model) the north pole as its centre.
Near mid-summer,= in the northern hemisphere, it is above the Tropic of Cancer all the way around the earth,
near either equinox, it is above the Equator all the way around the earth and
near mid-summer in the southern hemisphere, it is above the Tropic of Capricorn all the way around the earth.
Hi been checking few things according the round globe which does not add up. Lots of places it states that the solar constilation is different in the north and south of the hemiphere. I'm in Namibia which is southern part of Africa looking at the lil dipper and Orion's belt. Only difftence is they are upside down compared to if u are in northern part of the globe for example when I stayed in south Carolina the dipper is right side up and Orion's sword points downwards. Here in Namibia its the opposite. With a globe spinning and positions according the round globe there is no way this can be possible?Actually, constellations being upside down when viewed from the other hemisphere is exactly what you should expect on a globe. The crescent moons will be opposite as well.