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Flat Earth General / Re: How orbits work.
« on: March 22, 2017, 10:28:59 PM »

How does gravity "at least work" if it is clearly not working in entire galaxies?

As you wrote that, did you hear a swooshing noise? That was the point I was making, going over your head.

Flat Earth General / Re: How orbits work.
« on: March 21, 2017, 09:43:05 PM »
What I don't get about the Toms and the Truths of this world is that while distrusting all that scientists/Astronomers put before them they use the same peoples work to illustrate their points.
The problem of galaxy rotation and it not fitting with Newtons inverse square law was discovered by astronomers (Vera Rubin et al.) in the seventies. The New Scientist has just run an article (Strangely Attractive) that runs through the history of the problem and how there is a case for radically re-thinking  gravity , ending with an interview with Stacy McGaugh who worked with Rubin but who is working on modified Newtonian dynamics which works at the galaxy level but not at larger scales and how to reconcile that with dark matter that does.

We/they don't know everything, I would be deeply suspicious of anyone saying they did, but if you are going to oppose everything scientist say, you have to come up with something that at least works and you really can't take their work (that acknowledges a problem) and hold it up as proof they are wrong.


When considering the shape of the earth, wouldn't one think that an authority that deals with physical sciences would be more credible than someone who deals with educational sciences?

Yeah but they have the wrong sort of degrees, Shaq’ has a humanities one that lets him see through the veil, and all that flying, all power to him for not tiring of looking out of those grubby little portals, and watching a movie, especially at 7 foot, he must be hunched up, there again he probably has his own with a glass roof, even so it wouldn’t give him a perspective that could challenge the round earth as he wouldn’t be high enough, maybe that isn’t covered in humanities. Is this the same Shaq’ who believed that a flight from the East Coast to California might be shorter than a flight to the moon. He reasoned that the flights should be of comparable length because he can walk out the door and see the moon, but cannot see California?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« on: March 17, 2017, 04:44:01 PM »

Well 20 seats out of 150, when you predicted more than thirty, no chance of power as they think (rightly) he's dangerous and won't give him any power, but the hate-rag says it's victory, meh!

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 16, 2017, 09:58:00 PM »

Why? Cos' he seems to know more about it than you do?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« on: March 16, 2017, 09:52:19 PM »

You realise the only reason Rutte won was that he shifted his policies to be more like Wilders, right?

Wrong, or at least I mostly disagree. I'm no expert on Dutch politics so this is my speculation. He tacked to the wind of public opinion in a way the Tories in Britain failed to do, those who felt their fears about immigration weren't being listened to but were deeply suspicious of Wilders extreme views on Muslims were courted, especially by his dealings with the Turkish government. But don't forget Rutte lost 8 seats.
Where Wilders lost I believe, was a combination of the Dutch people rejecting the thought of them being another part of  the populist/Brexit/Trump bandwagon, and especially as the implementation of the closure of mosques and the banning of the Koran is overtly more fascist in its implications than many in a country with the Netherlands history would be comfortable. The massive turnout and surge in the greens vote, I think bears this out.

What was that beer by the way? Bitter?

A rye imperial stout. I've had a few of them before. I'll be drinking it anyway because it's really fucking good.
Sarcasm wasted there then.

Quote from: Parsifal
I wouldn't rule out Wilders joining a ruling coalition with Rutte just yet. I know Rutte has said he won't enter a coalition with the PVV, but you know how politicians are with promises.

I doubt/hope this won't happen. He doesn't need him, and it would fly in the face of the way the majority voted.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« on: March 16, 2017, 08:39:09 AM »

Well-done the Dutch, finger in the dyke to stop the trickle of fear based, divisive, backward looking politics becoming a flood.

What was that beer by the way? Bitter?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2017 Dutch general election
« on: March 15, 2017, 09:18:05 PM »

Good luck with that.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 14, 2017, 10:42:45 PM »

Meme warfare! Your country needs you!

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: March 14, 2017, 11:27:46 AM »

Bribery and corruption is a fundamental requisite for Olympic team success, and has been for ever, America the great does it (cheated to get Salt-lake-city 2002, then robbed Alex Coomber of skeleton Gold, bastards! One small instance), Great-Britain’s impressive haul of cycling shrapnel has a chemical whiff that fair makes the eyes sting, etcetera.

But Dinosaur has it from Putin that their success is down to pure vodka, bear steaks and a good night’s sleep. Now I’m no fan of the decadent capitalist west, well I quite like Netflix, but to imagine that its eastern counterpoint is a utopia of flaxen haired chiselled cheeked purity is to wear blinkers so big I imagine he is permanently unable to leave his room. I remember the she-men that shambled out of the Iron curtain to dominate the women's throwing events of the seventies, and believe me, that was either steroids or pure bred cave trolls, oh! And haven’t Russia been banned from the world championships?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 13, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »

* - nb. this is distinct from him frivolously talking about how celebrities can easily sexually assault women

Not just "can", did;
Trump, in a 2005 conversation with a television host that was caught on a live microphone, describes a failed seduction, saying: “I did try and fuck her, she was married,” and says that when he meets beautiful women he feels able to “grab them by the pussy”.

“You can do anything,”

How could we ever suspect him of sexual assault?

Drivel as usual Sexpest! If they had flown anywhere near the wall they would have been shot down by the Femi-nazi storm-troop battalions of the UN.

Also with my insider knowledge of these things, the walls have been disfigured by the anarchist, hacker collective suicide graffiti squads that periodically flood out from the Asian slave camps, a diaspora of cast aside electronic & clothing workers, (ruined for fine motor-control work by years of amphetamine and MDMA additives in their rations for increased production, but capable of great works of reckless Art), arriving in baroque barges crafted from returned Nike trainers, with vast jamming arrays of wire hangers and pirated Apple/Samsung-ware, to get them through the shoals of mind-slaved dolphin torpedoes.
Any pristine white edifices you have photos of, are probably Gypsum crystal ether-wave transmitters, used for mind control.

How about that for merit, Frankie boy?

But even so if this guy is for real, this would be an amazing experience. You're right in the fact if you came back and said it's flat I would discount everything you say, as you're clearly mad and I have read and seen enough testaments of those who have been, to do so, but on a purely personel level I would snatch his hand off, aren't you at least curious enough (any of you) to test your ideas?

I mean, you would be first flat earther to reach that boundary, the new prophet. "I've been there and it's all bollocks" says the one eyed King. You could blow Dubay into the weeds, why wouldn't you go?


Well you go then ! Instead of prejudging the outcome, send the incorruptible, razor minded Sexpest.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: March 08, 2017, 09:52:00 PM »

About this;

I have yet to see any actual evidence or proof of Trump being the evil Fascist people say he is. There has been no assault on free speech.

During his first week in office, Trump launched orders to gag scientists in Federal Agencies, hit the EPA with a freeze on all contracts and grants, staff were barred from updating its social media accounts  and told not to talk to the press without clearance. The department of the interior's twitter account were shut down, the department of health and human services was ordered not to communicate with external officials, including members of congress.

You sure about that statement Truth?

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: what does the flat earth look like mapped out?
« on: March 02, 2017, 09:51:33 PM »

Crowd-fund it, if people were willing to pledge £87,000 to build Minas Tirith in England and this community is growing as much as Pinky & the Brain have been crowing, then it should be a breeze.

Flat Earth Q&A / Re: what does the flat earth look like mapped out?
« on: February 23, 2017, 09:32:54 PM »

Mr Andruszkow is dead right, and while the new FE tag-team of Pinky and the Brain would love to believe that an upsurge in interest in sites such as this is proof of a fresh flow of free thinking, the very opposite is true.

If 20% believing in something (the largest amount I could find to back the FE theory, in a poll of some Americans!) is relevant then Aliens have walked amongst us, Obama is a Muslim and Saddam Hussein is responsible for 9/11.

Less of free thinking revolution, more of an indictment of modern schooling.

Where are the maps?


And then the US whines about everybody wanting to blow the fuck out of them

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Guns N Roses n other cheese
« on: February 16, 2017, 03:30:52 PM »

Slash? Maybe, Axl! No! Watching a hot-pants bedecked ego strutting around singing about “faggots” when he clearly is one, was bad enough when he was young, now he’s a porky paranoid mess, willing to risk crashing to his death if the stage isn’t shored up to bariatric standards for another pay check, would be my idea of wages wasted, have fun.

Flat Earth General / Re: flat earth questions
« on: February 16, 2017, 08:33:35 AM »

If he had satellite angels, holding mirrors, he could.

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