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Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« on: July 09, 2017, 06:56:26 PM »
We are arguing about whether the Earth is convex round or flat , but we haven't even ruled out all the possibilities! Do we even have enough proof to rule out the Earth being concave!? It sounds completely absurd , but so does the other side's belief. Could it be possible for the Earth to be concave? Could there be alternate theories that explain everything for a concave Earth , just like there are for Flat Earth/Round Earth? (I am saying both to not offend others) Could a concave Earth even exist , or is there no way for it to exist? We need to rule out a concave Earth before confirming which one is the definite truth.
There is one fundamental thing that both Round Earth Believers and Flat Earth Believers agree on. The fact that the Earth is not concave. That is obviously wrong... right?? What if the government's conspiracy is double layered!? What if they want us to either think it's convex round or flat?! What if the Earth is actually concave?? Nah it's not.... or is it...

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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2017, 11:04:06 PM »
Yes, it is possible. Rowbotham's experiments do not discount the possibility of concavity, only convexity. It's called "Earth Not a Globe" not "The Earth is Flat". It is primarily a book of skepticism against the globe model, and an exposé that what know about astronomy and the earth is wrong.

There are societies who believe that the earth is concave and who will often quote Rowbotham's works as a disproof of the globular model. It was Rowbotham's post-enlightenment questioning of the globe, in fact, which got people thinking about other models. Per the concave earth theory; there are some models which propose that we live on the inside of a bowl, and there are others which propose that we live on the inside of a hollow earth. Look up the book "The Cellular Cosmogony" by Cyrus Teed.
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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 06:42:41 AM »
Yes, it is possible. Rowbotham's experiments do not discount the possibility of concavity, only convexity. It's called "Earth Not a Globe" not "The Earth is Flat". It is primarily a book of skepticism against the globe model, and an exposé that what know about astronomy and the earth is wrong.

There are societies who believe that the earth is concave and who will often quote Rowbotham's works as a disproof of the globular model. It was Rowbotham's post-enlightenment questioning of the globe, in fact, which got people thinking about other models. Per the concave earth theory; there are some models which propose that we live on the inside of a bowl, and there are others which propose that we live on the inside of a hollow earth. Look up the book "The Cellular Cosmogony" by Cyrus Teed.
Which statements in the book have proved to be correct when tested in the last 10 years?

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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 04:02:17 PM »
Yes, it is possible. Rowbotham's experiments do not discount the possibility of concavity, only convexity. It's called "Earth Not a Globe" not "The Earth is Flat". It is primarily a book of skepticism against the globe model, and an exposé that what know about astronomy and the earth is wrong.

There are societies who believe that the earth is concave and who will often quote Rowbotham's works as a disproof of the globular model. It was Rowbotham's post-enlightenment questioning of the globe, in fact, which got people thinking about other models. Per the concave earth theory; there are some models which propose that we live on the inside of a bowl, and there are others which propose that we live on the inside of a hollow earth. Look up the book "The Cellular Cosmogony" by Cyrus Teed.
Which statements in the book have proved to be correct when tested in the last 10 years?

The water convexity experiments have been tested and confirmed.

Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 05:02:48 PM »
Yes, it is possible. Rowbotham's experiments do not discount the possibility of concavity, only convexity. It's called "Earth Not a Globe" not "The Earth is Flat". It is primarily a book of skepticism against the globe model, and an exposé that what know about astronomy and the earth is wrong.

There are societies who believe that the earth is concave and who will often quote Rowbotham's works as a disproof of the globular model. It was Rowbotham's post-enlightenment questioning of the globe, in fact, which got people thinking about other models. Per the concave earth theory; there are some models which propose that we live on the inside of a bowl, and there are others which propose that we live on the inside of a hollow earth. Look up the book "The Cellular Cosmogony" by Cyrus Teed.
Which statements in the book have proved to be correct when tested in the last 10 years?

The water convexity experiments have been tested and confirmed.
Which ones, and do you have a source? The ones done on the canal in particular I had some concern could have been impacted by the canal being man made. But I also haven't been able to find too much on it's structure/construction.
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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2017, 07:36:40 PM »
Yes, it is possible. Rowbotham's experiments do not discount the possibility of concavity, only convexity. It's called "Earth Not a Globe" not "The Earth is Flat". It is primarily a book of skepticism against the globe model, and an exposé that what know about astronomy and the earth is wrong.

There are societies who believe that the earth is concave and who will often quote Rowbotham's works as a disproof of the globular model. It was Rowbotham's post-enlightenment questioning of the globe, in fact, which got people thinking about other models. Per the concave earth theory; there are some models which propose that we live on the inside of a bowl, and there are others which propose that we live on the inside of a hollow earth. Look up the book "The Cellular Cosmogony" by Cyrus Teed.
Which statements in the book have proved to be correct when tested in the last 10 years?

The water convexity experiments have been tested and confirmed.
Why do you not give details?  Without that we must assume you have none.

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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2017, 02:55:55 PM »
Yes, it is possible. Rowbotham's experiments do not discount the possibility of concavity, only convexity. It's called "Earth Not a Globe" not "The Earth is Flat". It is primarily a book of skepticism against the globe model, and an exposé that what know about astronomy and the earth is wrong.

There are societies who believe that the earth is concave and who will often quote Rowbotham's works as a disproof of the globular model. It was Rowbotham's post-enlightenment questioning of the globe, in fact, which got people thinking about other models. Per the concave earth theory; there are some models which propose that we live on the inside of a bowl, and there are others which propose that we live on the inside of a hollow earth. Look up the book "The Cellular Cosmogony" by Cyrus Teed.
Which statements in the book have proved to be correct when tested in the last 10 years?

The water convexity experiments have been tested and confirmed.

They have been debunked many times.
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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 05:19:41 AM »
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Why do you not give details?  Without that we must assume you have none.

We gave created an entire website for you with a literature section containing links to books and journals, most of which perform or reference a water convexity experiment.
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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2017, 06:57:19 AM »
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Why do you not give details?  Without that we must assume you have none.

We gave created an entire website for you with a literature section containing links to books and journals, most of which perform or reference a water convexity experiment.
As requested please provide links to experiments conducted in the last 10 years.

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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2017, 10:56:39 AM »
We are arguing about whether the Earth is convex round or flat , but we haven't even ruled out all the possibilities! Do we even have enough proof to rule out the Earth being concave!? It sounds completely absurd , but so does the other side's belief. Could it be possible for the Earth to be concave? Could there be alternate theories that explain everything for a concave Earth , just like there are for Flat Earth/Round Earth? (I am saying both to not offend others) Could a concave Earth even exist , or is there no way for it to exist? We need to rule out a concave Earth before confirming which one is the definite truth.

A concave earth, if uniformly concave would be a globe ( or sphere) where we reside on the inside. This would be quite easily disproven with vision tests since all points would rise above the field of view. There would, therefore, be no clear horizon, just a great fading in the distance effect. It would also be possible to disprove by moving in all directions within the sphere and experiencing the lessening of centrifugal force the closer one get to the pivot point of the sphere. Neither gravity of RE model, nor acceleration of FE model could answer the question of why we remain on the surface since gravity would pull toward the absolute center of the sphere without centrifugal force, and acceleration would only work on one side of the sphere. Likewise, centrifugal force will work on most of the inner surfaces of the sphere, but as I previously said, the closer one got to the center of rotation, the less centrifugal force would be felt. The interesting thing about this thought experiment is that it would definitely explain Coriolis effect which FE model absolutely fails at and even denies as in the case of the pendulum experiments. But concave earth would not be able to explain space, nor seasons, nor satellite launches any better than FE model does.

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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2017, 04:56:29 AM »
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Why do you not give details?  Without that we must assume you have none.

We gave created an entire website for you with a literature section containing links to books and journals, most of which perform or reference a water convexity experiment.
As requested please provide links to experiments conducted in the last 10 years.

There have been recent experiments, including laser experiments, all which are easily searchable on youtube and google. Feel free to complete the rest of this journey for yourself.

Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2017, 05:33:38 AM »
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Why do you not give details?  Without that we must assume you have none.

We gave created an entire website for you with a literature section containing links to books and journals, most of which perform or reference a water convexity experiment.
As requested please provide links to experiments conducted in the last 10 years.

There have been recent experiments, including laser experiments, all which are easily searchable on youtube and google. Feel free to complete the rest of this journey for yourself.
Been there, done that. Every one I find has had problems with it's execution, and not enough information to be certain the experiment wasn't faulty in some manner. Not to mention it needs to be done multiple times in the same location, with the same equipment (same brands are fine) as these need to be consistently reproducible results, just like any other experiment. It would be greatly appreciated if you could provide something of the sort, especially that one you mentioned in another thread was submitted to a peer reviewed journal. Haven't seen that one, and searches aren't turning anything up for some reason. Just saying "This has totally happened" isn't any more convincing than "Earth Not a Globe" is. Which is to say basically nil.
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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2017, 06:15:40 AM »
Quote from: inquisitive
Why do you not give details?  Without that we must assume you have none.

We gave created an entire website for you with a literature section containing links to books and journals, most of which perform or reference a water convexity experiment.
As requested please provide links to experiments conducted in the last 10 years.

There have been recent experiments, including laser experiments, all which are easily searchable on youtube and google. Feel free to complete the rest of this journey for yourself.
I would like you to provide some specific links please.

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Re: Do we have any proof that the Earth is not Concave?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2017, 02:59:54 PM »
Yes, it is possible. Rowbotham's experiments do not discount the possibility of concavity, only convexity. It's called "Earth Not a Globe" not "The Earth is Flat". It is primarily a book of skepticism against the globe model, and an exposé that what know about astronomy and the earth is wrong.

There are societies who believe that the earth is concave and who will often quote Rowbotham's works as a disproof of the globular model. It was Rowbotham's post-enlightenment questioning of the globe, in fact, which got people thinking about other models. Per the concave earth theory; there are some models which propose that we live on the inside of a bowl, and there are others which propose that we live on the inside of a hollow earth. Look up the book "The Cellular Cosmogony" by Cyrus Teed.
Which statements in the book have proved to be correct when tested in the last 10 years?

The water convexity experiments have been tested and confirmed.
...and re-tested and disproved.

...and queried in a court of law and proven incorrect.

...and comprehensively explained.

...and then used as the standard PROOF that the Earth is round up until the time when satellite photos demonstrated it.