* the coast of Africa seen from the coast of South America.
* the verifiable logs of a ship circumnavigating the South Pole indicating time and distance.
* an eight hour trip from Auckland to Sydney
* a flight from LA or San Francisco to Sydney going north along the US west coast
* picture of from way up high showing New Zealand all stretched out
* Cherboug seen from Plymouth
* the North Star straight up overhead everywhere including Sydney and Auckland
* horizontal star trails photographed from San Francisco, Sydney, and a few other places
* consistent measurements of the altitudes of the North Star from 20°, 40°, 60° north and south latitudes.
Pictures of the northern constellations including the pole star verifiably taken form any two of Sydney, Auckland, Tierra Del Fuego, and Cape Town.
* Complete sun tracks of the sun entirely above the horizon as taken from Tierra Del Fuego and Toronto.
* high-power photos of low-elevation objects on the Crystal Sphere taken from places close to it, such as Sydney or Tierra Del Fuego that show significant edge-on smearing
* An explanation for the high-energy impact tracks in the moon rocks given to university professors, who discovered them and identified them when no one expected to find that.
* An explanation that makes sense of how gravity works on Earth, complete with mathematical equations, plus an explanation of the motions of the planets.
* An explanation of the motions of the sun and moon that make sense in this model
* an explanation of stellar parallax
* an explanation for all the photographs of ships disappearing hull first over the horizon that doesn't invoke a nonsensical interpretation of perspective
* an explanation why a series of floats put up on the Hudson River did not actually line up as Rowbotham said they would
* confirmation of the flatness of the Suez Canal by a similar experiment of floating buoys
* an explanation why people looking south from Tierra Del Fuego, Sydney, and Cape Town all see the same constellations and star trails as predicted by heliocentric round earth when Flat Earth predicts they would be seeing different thirds of the celestial sky.
* An explanation of why everyone watches the sun rise up from the horizon in the east and down in the west, and why it doesn't go round and round up in the sky the way Flat Earth predicts.

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 10:59:53 PM »
* the coast of Africa seen from the coast of South America.
* the verifiable logs of a ship circumnavigating the South Pole indicating time and distance.
* an eight hour trip from Auckland to Sydney
* a flight from LA or San Francisco to Sydney going north along the US west coast
* picture of from way up high showing New Zealand all stretched out
* Cherboug seen from Plymouth
* the North Star straight up overhead everywhere including Sydney and Auckland
* horizontal star trails photographed from San Francisco, Sydney, and a few other places
* consistent measurements of the altitudes of the North Star from 20°, 40°, 60° north and south latitudes.
Pictures of the northern constellations including the pole star verifiably taken form any two of Sydney, Auckland, Tierra Del Fuego, and Cape Town.
* Complete sun tracks of the sun entirely above the horizon as taken from Tierra Del Fuego and Toronto.
* high-power photos of low-elevation objects on the Crystal Sphere taken from places close to it, such as Sydney or Tierra Del Fuego that show significant edge-on smearing
* An explanation for the high-energy impact tracks in the moon rocks given to university professors, who discovered them and identified them when no one expected to find that.
* An explanation that makes sense of how gravity works on Earth, complete with mathematical equations, plus an explanation of the motions of the planets.
* An explanation of the motions of the sun and moon that make sense in this model
* an explanation of stellar parallax
* an explanation for all the photographs of ships disappearing hull first over the horizon that doesn't invoke a nonsensical interpretation of perspective
* an explanation why a series of floats put up on the Hudson River did not actually line up as Rowbotham said they would
* confirmation of the flatness of the Suez Canal by a similar experiment of floating buoys
* an explanation why people looking south from Tierra Del Fuego, Sydney, and Cape Town all see the same constellations and star trails as predicted by heliocentric round earth when Flat Earth predicts they would be seeing different thirds of the celestial sky.
* An explanation of why everyone watches the sun rise up from the horizon in the east and down in the west, and why it doesn't go round and round up in the sky the way Flat Earth predicts.

Some of us, self included, would be willing to believe that the earth is flat for just one thing.:
An accurate "Flat Earth" map made by experts in geodesy and cartography showing the entire flat earth.

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Re: If you present all these things, I will accept that these Earth is flat.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2015, 01:09:41 AM »
Since there is no actual question about FET here, I am moving this to FEG.

Also, welcome to TFES. I would suggest that you try to narrow your discussion points to one or two at a time. You aren't likely going to get a response when posting so many requests.

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Re: If you present all these things, I will accept that these Earth is flat.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2015, 01:18:52 AM »
Since there is no actual question about FET here, I am moving this to FEG.

Also, welcome to TFES. I would suggest that you try to narrow your discussion points to one or two at a time. You aren't likely going to get a response when posting so many requests.

I should think the request for an accurate flat earth map of the earth should be a valid enough request.

I don't see what the problem is from "posting so many requests ?" Why not do it just like any examination ?  Answer the questions one by one ? It would seem your request would be like asking one of your instructors: "This examination has 50 questions. Why not just ask them one or two at a time ?" Flat earthers seem to have plenty of time...Except when you get into asking questions that they can't answer. LOL.

"* Cherboug seen from Plymouth"
How about Lands End seen from Sandy Hook. (See the other thread.)

Another one :
The Casino and the shore line of Santa Catalina Island seen from Point Fermin Park at San Pedro, California. (See the other thread.) Only abut 25 miles of open sea with nothing in between but the open sea.
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Re: If you present all these things, I will accept that these Earth is flat.
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 06:07:59 AM »

Another one :
The Casino and the shore line of Santa Catalina Island seen from Point Fermin Park at San Pedro, California. (See the other thread.) Only abut 25 miles of open sea with nothing in between but the open sea.

Come a bit south. We can see San Clemente Island from Del Mar / Torrey Pines. That's about 45 miles. Tourists (Zonies) mistake it for a parked cruise ship. I lived on the bluffs for over a year before I saw it. 

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 11:17:41 PM »

Another one :
The Casino and the shore line of Santa Catalina Island seen from Point Fermin Park at San Pedro, California. (See the other thread.) Only abut 25 miles of open sea with nothing in between but the open sea.

Come a bit south. We can see San Clemente Island from Del Mar / Torrey Pines. That's about 45 miles. Tourists (Zonies) mistake it for a parked cruise ship. I lived on the bluffs for over a year before I saw it.

Is this from the tops of the bluffs ? What can you see from the beaches ? Can you see all of San Clemente down to the shore line ?

Re: If you present all these things, I will accept that these Earth is flat.
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 04:20:18 AM »
I don't recall looking for or seeing it from the sand, but from the bluffs most certainly. It looks like a stationary air carrier (to me), very flat, and I don't think the sand or shore is visible, at least with naked eye.


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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2015, 05:49:09 AM »
Since there is no actual question about FET here, I am moving this to FEG.

Also, welcome to TFES. I would suggest that you try to narrow your discussion points to one or two at a time. You aren't likely going to get a response when posting so many requests.

I think the question if all these items were evident he could accept that the earth was flat.

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2015, 03:53:06 PM »

Since there is no actual question about FET here, I am moving this to FEG.

Also, welcome to TFES. I would suggest that you try to narrow your discussion points to one or two at a time. You aren't likely going to get a response when posting so many requests.

I think the question if all these items were evident he could accept that the earth was flat.

Irrelevant.

Re: If you present all these things, I will accept that these Earth is flat.
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2015, 04:29:27 PM »
But, My Father is an Astronaut, and he showed a video from a Spacewalk and I saw the Earth as a Sphere. How could this work? I've ask him about the earth, and the theory that its a disk, and then he said " That's bullshit son!"

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Re: If you present all these things, I will accept that these Earth is flat.
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2015, 04:43:11 PM »
But, My Father is an Astronaut, and he showed a video from a Spacewalk and I saw the Earth as a Sphere. How could this work? I've ask him about the earth, and the theory that its a disk, and then he said " That's bullshit son!"

My father runs the Death Star and murders younglings and ewoks for shits and giggles. My father says the earth is unlike any other planet and is in fact flat.